what do radar detectors/jammers cover?
what do radar detectors/jammers cover?
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Mad Dave

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7,158 posts

283 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Last night a friend and I were discussing radar detectors and the like and I said that i thought detectors were pretty worthless unless youre in traffic - eg, you detect the radar bouncing off of the car in front - if youre on an empty road, you'll only detect the radar as it bounces off of your own car, and hence its too late.

Is this correct?

Also we were talking about radar jammers - i said that they preventing an Officer with a radar gun from getting a decent signal. My question is whether or not radar jammers work with GATSO's?

Cheers

Dave

bjc

56 posts

291 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Got a Bell 550 Radar/Laser detector

Detects Gatsos (radar) before you get to them and is usually enough warning to get the brakes on.

From what people say on here the laser bit is a bit pointless as it goes off when you are hit. (spill from other cars would be lucky)

Didn't think you got radar jammers as all the vans use lasers. Use (not possession of) Laser jammer is illegal (but then so is going too fast ).

Mad Dave

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7,158 posts

283 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Radar/Laser jammers - didnt know the difference to be honest - ill rephrase; "them fings wot block Coppa's wen vey point a gun at ya"

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Think maybe your getting a little confused.
Enforcement devices that the ploddys use are currently divided into 2 classes, (well ill divide them anyway)... Passive and active devices.
Examples of a passive device would be a truvelo or gatso that uses peizo/inductive loops to determine the speed as a car travels over them.
Active devices are those such as Gatso photoradar and laser.
The active class can be further divided into 2 classes.
1) thos that use radio emission to detect the target vehicle,
2) those that use light emission.

Radar is a radio emission, it occurs at a much lower frequency than the light emitting devices(laser).

Consequently, you cant use a radar jammer to jam laser(no kidding) and vice-versa.

Radar jamming is a prohibited occupation in this country, and is covered by the wireless telegraphy act 1949(iirc). Laser light emission is NOT.

Hope this helps to clear up a little of the confusion...hell, im confused now!!


gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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deltaf said:
Think maybe your getting a little confused.
Enforcement devices that the ploddys use are currently divided into 2 classes, (well ill divide them anyway)... Passive and active devices.
Examples of a passive device would be a truvelo or gatso that uses peizo/inductive loops to determine the speed as a car travels over them.
Active devices are those such as Gatso photoradar and laser.
The active class can be further divided into 2 classes.
1) thos that use radio emission to detect the target vehicle,
2) those that use light emission.

Radar is a radio emission, it occurs at a much lower frequency than the light emitting devices(laser).

Consequently, you cant use a radar jammer to jam laser(no kidding) and vice-versa.

Radar jamming is a prohibited occupation in this country, and is covered by the wireless telegraphy act 1949(iirc). Laser light emission is NOT.

Hope this helps to clear up a little of the confusion...hell, im confused now!!




failing that get a laser guided missile fitted so when they lock on to your car they will get more than just a speed reading....

planetdave

9,921 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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A laser emits 'light' (even if it is out of visual range).

And to ban the public from emiting light is err

Mad Dave

Original Poster:

7,158 posts

283 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Cheers chaps.......i think!

Deadly Dog

281 posts

287 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Radar jammers have been tested in Court and found not to be illegal under s5 of the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1947.

Visit www.speed-trap.co.uk/FAQ/FAQ.htm and check the paragraph "Are laser jammers legal in the UK?"



>> Edited by Deadly Dog on Thursday 19th June 16:56

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

304 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Deadly Dog said:
From www.speed-trap.co.uk/FAQ/FAQ.htm

Note the restriction on copying/reproduction on the foot of the page

Deadly Dog

281 posts

287 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Size Nine Elm said:

Deadly Dog said:
From www.speed-trap.co.uk/FAQ/FAQ.htm


Note the restriction on copying/reproduction on the foot of the page


I used to have quite a good correspondance with Paul Gander's predecessor many years ago. I'm sure he'll forgive me but I've edited the post to be sure.

icamm

2,153 posts

280 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Deadly Dog said:
Radar jammers have been tested in Court and found not to be illegal under s5 of the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1947.

Visit www.speed-trap.co.uk/FAQ/FAQ.htm and check the paragraph "Are laser jammers legal in the UK?"

>> Edited by Deadly Dog on Thursday 19th June 16:56
Erm wrong. RADAR jammers ARE illegal (you need a broadcast license to emit Radio signals). LASER jammers aren't currently illegal - but there have been no test cases yet.

RADAR detectors can usually give you enough warning of a trap ahead. LASER detectors usually only warn you that you have been speed checked (unless you are VERY lucky and get laser "splash" from a vehicle in front og you)

Deadly Dog

281 posts

287 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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icamm said:

Deadly Dog said:
Radar jammers have been tested in Court and found not to be illegal under s5 of the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1947.

Visit www.speed-trap.co.uk/FAQ/FAQ.htm and check the paragraph "Are laser jammers legal in the UK?"

>> Edited by Deadly Dog on Thursday 19th June 16:56


Erm wrong. RADAR jammers ARE illegal (you need a broadcast license to emit Radio signals). LASER jammers aren't currently illegal - but there have been no test cases yet.



Paul Gander operates one of the oldest and most respected UK speed trap information sites on the web.

Please read carefully the paragraph at the Speed Trap Bible I have made reference to. It does specifically refer to the legality of radar jammers.

If however you disagree with the content of the page and have supporting legal information, may I suggest you contact Paul Gander directly and inform of him of any errors. It is important that amendments are made if the information posted is incorrect, particulary in such a controversial area.

Best regards.