Registered to a Minor
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5ltr-chim

Original Poster:

635 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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< mindunderutilized >

I was wondering just what would happen if :

You registered your car in the name of a minor.

I believe this would be legal to do so as the registered keeper is not necessarily the legal owner.

If he/she then got sent a NIP , could you just return it blank, citing the child is too young to complete legal documents i.e. a minor and therefore would they
have to drop the case there and then ???

NOT that I would suggest anyone should do anything potentially dodgy!

< bestgoandfindsomethingusefultooccupymind >

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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5ltr-chim said:
< mindunderutilized >

I was wondering just what would happen if :

You registered your car in the name of a minor.

I believe this would be legal to do so as the registered keeper is not necessarily the legal owner.

If he/she then got sent a NIP , could you just return it blank, citing the child is too young to complete legal documents i.e. a minor and therefore would they
have to drop the case there and then ???

NOT that I would suggest anyone should do anything potentially dodgy!

< bestgoandfindsomethingusefultooccupymind >


YES! This would work fine. It's just finding a suitable minor.

A minor can be registered keeper. As a 10 YO child I owned an off-road motorcycle with valid log book.

For me this is the best anti camera idea yet. Perfectly legal. Might impact on your insurance a bit tho.

Deadly Dog

281 posts

287 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Once again check www.speed-trap.co.uk/FAQ/FAQ.htm under the paragraph entitled "I understand that if I register my vehicle in my childs name..."



>> Edited by Deadly Dog on Thursday 19th June 17:02

Mr E

22,638 posts

279 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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More fun.

My grandma cannot drive.

So. We register a car in her name. We insure myself and a.n.other to drive it.

I then drive it. I get camera'd at speed.

She gets a NIP. Which she returns stating she cannot recall who was borrowing her car at the time. She gets £60 fine (which I pay) and 3 points. On her non existant DL.

As long as I'm not stopped by the police for speeding, I never get any points, and have to pay £60 now and then for driving as fast as I want. They can give my grandma as many points as they want and ban her for life. She isn't going to care.

Legal. Yup, as long as I'm insured - and my old grandma genuinely cannot remember who was driving (otherwise you end up commiting all sorts of crimes)

Moral? Hell no.

This is just a thought experiment of course. I couldn't possibly condone this sort of action.

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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So we all register our cars in your Gran's name? ;-)

Thanks for correcting me on the 'child' one.

Grandma one looks like a flyer. Unfortunatly my Grandparents are all both highly risk averse and highly dead.

planetdave

9,921 posts

273 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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So it's not legal for a child to own a vehicle.

But @ 16 you can.

Chuck 'em a few bob and make sure they are @ school or other good alibi etc.

Need I say more?

Mr E

22,638 posts

279 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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toad_oftoadhall said:
So we all register our cars in your Gran's name? ;-)

Thanks for correcting me on the 'child' one.

Grandma one looks like a flyer. Unfortunatly my Grandparents are all both highly risk averse and highly dead.


If it means she gets lots of male visitors with sports cars I suspect she'd be well happy....

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Mr E said:


If it means she gets lots of male visitors with sports cars I suspect she'd be well happy....



Yeah, i heard that about your gran. ;-)

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

304 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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There's a similar plot with company cars, which is to have a company secretary who doesn't hold a licence, and has a very bad memory about who was driving which car at the time.

£60 and 3 points for failing to disclose the driver (s172), but no licence for points to go on...

Mr E

22,638 posts

279 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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toad_oftoadhall said:


Yeah, i heard that about your gran. ;-)


Shall I tell her you'll be around on Friday evening at the usual time?

5ltr-chim

Original Poster:

635 posts

277 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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I like this idea - So :
1/ Can we register all our cars in her name and
2/ Does she charge a handling fee for NIPs ??

    Disclaimer

Don't forget the registered keeper is not necessarily the legal owner - so as long as we keep the receipt of purchase and get granny to sign a note to say we still own the car...

Mr E

22,638 posts

279 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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I'm sure a bottle of sherry would be acceptable as a handling fee per offense....

Flat in Fifth

47,544 posts

271 months

Sunday 22nd June 2003
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Now Mr E's granny is sorted what about registering the car in the name of a foreign national who lives overseas and only visits very occasionally, like every 10-15 years.

I can think of someone who would be happy to accept all payments in Scrumpy Jack, allegedly.

Which countries have a reciprocal agreement on licence points?

Any? None? In the pipeline?

Just wondered in an idle moment. not

Alan420

5,618 posts

278 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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I read something a long while ago about an eccentric millionaire leaving all their posessions, including a classic merc, to their pet cat...

How about that?

Sorry, officer, my rabbit refuses to sign the NIP...

mel

10,168 posts

295 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm My dads got Alziemers and had his driving license withdrawn several years ago as a consequence of his medical condition, he will as a fact never drive again. I also have full power of attorney over his affairs so can legally pay his fines, fill out forms in his name etc etc...........I can see he might gain a few vehicles in his name for the next few years and if push comes to shove and plod ever turned up they'd soon leave after ten minutes getting told about the war.

Lv2spd

120 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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Alan420 said:


Sorry, officer, my rabbit refuses to sign the NIP...



Rabbits are fairly short lived, and repeatedly reregistering the cars under successive generations of bunnies could become a pain in the arse, may I suggest a longer lived animal, perhaps a tortise?