Steve Green Chief Constable for Nottingham retiring at 51
Steve Green Chief Constable for Nottingham retiring at 51
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mr motor

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2,610 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th October 2007
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Anyone noticed in the press recently that Steve Green, the 51 year old Chief Constable for Nottingham is to step down from his position after seven years in charge.

After joining the force in 2000 Mr Green has become one of the longest-serving chief constables in the country.

Stephen Green is considered by his closest allies to be a top cop, though regarded by the rest of us to be a bit of a top pr*t.

He's best remembered for losing control to drug dealers and criminals in the st. anns area of Nottingham and the drive by shooting of a youngster at Goose Fair a few years ago, plus numerous other high profile shootings.

Crime has rocketed throughout Nottinghamshire, though unless you have been caught for speeding you rarely see sight of his force, unless near to election times, or other pompous politicial occasions.

Green, driven on by safety driven do-gooders, has pushed ahead with a criminally expensive SPECS safety camera system on the ring road, all funded by Nottinghamshire taxpayers to catch any motorists who are somehow able to speed on the ring-road.

Steve Green aged 51 is possibly looking forward to a great many state funded police retirement benefits, though these figures are not as yet available to the general public. We merely fund his pension fund!

So let us all say good bye and good riddance to this top cop, and thank him for his loyal service to the county, and hope to god he's replaced by a decent, hard working, honest, and down-to-earth bobbie on the beat!!!

Chrispy Porker

17,742 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Well his pension benefits are the same as any officer. Having paid 11% during his career presumably.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Each to his own....

I served with Steve as a fellow Inspector in his early years and found him a regular guy. Please to see him climb the ladder

We all moan about the abilities of a Chief, I am no different, but some of the crap (with a capital C) they have to deal with one can appreciate why they 'lost it' but a detailed enquiry may reveal factors we were not privy to or did not appreciate.

' Let him without sin cast the first stone' eh.

dvd

Chrispy Porker

17,742 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Each to his own....

I served with Steve as a fellow Inspector in his early years and found him a regular guy. Please to see him climb the ladder

We all moan about the abilities of a Chief, I am no different, but some of the crap (with a capital C) they have to deal with one can appreciate why they 'lost it' but a detailed enquiry may reveal factors we were not privy to or did not appreciate.

' Let him without sin cast the first stone' eh.

dvd
He must have had something to be a CC at 44

off_again

13,917 posts

265 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Each to his own....

I served with Steve as a fellow Inspector in his early years and found him a regular guy. Please to see him climb the ladder

We all moan about the abilities of a Chief, I am no different, but some of the crap (with a capital C) they have to deal with one can appreciate why they 'lost it' but a detailed enquiry may reveal factors we were not privy to or did not appreciate.

' Let him without sin cast the first stone' eh.

dvd
...and don't even mention the political games / tightrope that the chief's have to walk.... :shudder:

I would hate to even think about the rubbish they have to deal with....

thehappyotter

800 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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I've had worse gaffers I guess...

The problems in Notts Police go far deeper than just the Chief. We have suffered generations of weak management, he's had the balls to have a go at fixing the problems.

Some things he got wrong (in a big way), most he got right.

Jeremy Kyle

172 posts

231 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Isn’t Nottingham now the gun crime capital of UK? He obviously did an excellent job in those 7 years!!

thehappyotter

800 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Jeremy Kyle said:
Isn’t Nottingham now the gun crime capital of UK? He obviously did an excellent job in those 7 years!!
If you read the Mail it is.

It's not, although i'm not blindly loyal enough to deny it does have, or did have, a big problem with firearm related crime.

These were problems which were bubbling away under the surface well before Mr Green came.

Did he do enough to nip it in the bud? Obviously not. Hindsight's wonderful.

Operation Stealth has done a brilliant job of cutting gun crime in recent years. Sadly a little too late in the day.

Chrispy Porker

17,742 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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I think he has the right idea.
Wish I had a chiefs pension at 51, to look forward to.
Why anyone wants to go on beyond that age is beyond me.

TripleS

4,294 posts

273 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Chrispy Porker said:
I think he has the right idea.
Wish I had a chiefs pension at 51, to look forward to.
Why anyone wants to go on beyond that age is beyond me.
Some may think it appropriate and justifiable, and presumably it is in accordance with the rules, but 51 seems to be an extremely early age at which to retire.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

djohnson

3,687 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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TripleS said:
51 seems to be an extremely early age at which to retire.
You think? Even 51 might not give you that many years of active life to do your own thing with. I'm planning to retire much much earlier than 51.

thehappyotter

800 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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I'll be 49 when i'm gone.

We work until 55 or for 30 years whichever is first.

Those of us on the old pension plan do anyway. New probationers have to work 35 years or until they're 60.

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Dwight VanDriver said:
' Let him without sin cast the first stone' eh.

dvd
Or, maybe more aptly in this case: "Let he who is without sin, stone the cast first!" - Streaky

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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FishFace said:
TripleS said:
Chrispy Porker said:
I think he has the right idea.
Wish I had a chiefs pension at 51, to look forward to.
Why anyone wants to go on beyond that age is beyond me.
Some may think it appropriate and justifiable, and presumably it is in accordance with the rules, but 51 seems to be an extremely early age at which to retire.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
Although it may well begin to be something of the past Police officers have shocking life expectancy after retirement.

The old "quick turnaround" shifts or whatever they were called apparently took years off one's life.
These days, it's probably because it's the first hard work they've done wink - Streaky
Who doesn't really mean it.

Terzo123

4,760 posts

239 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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The average life expectancy after retiral for cops used to be only 4 years!

Thankfully its not that bad now

djohnson

3,687 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Terzo123 said:
The average life expectancy after retiral for cops used to be only 4 years!

Thankfully its not that bad now
Not so many years ago the retirement age for the majority of the population was 65 and life expectancy 68. This issue wasn't just confined to the Police Force.

Retiral? I think you mean 'retirement'.


Derek Smith

49,996 posts

279 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Terzo123 said:
The average life expectancy after retiral for cops used to be only 4 years!

Thankfully its not that bad now
The research that's most often quoted is that from the middle/late '80s where it was found that half of retiring poice officers died within four years of handing their uniform in. That's regardless of age on retirement. The result of this research was that that nothing was done. There was lots of talk about shift patterns and such but that's where it ended. I did just over half my career on full shifts and whenever I got onto a 9-5 within five or six weeks I would start to feel realy good and buzzing.

After one early turn I walked into the car car and not only could not remember where I parked my car, but didn't know which one I'd come in.

Rotating shifts cripple you.

Chrispy Porker

17,742 posts

259 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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Agreed
I did shifts for 25 years.
I felt quite odd going to bed and getting up at 'normal' times.

thehappyotter

800 posts

233 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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The current 6 on 4 off isn't too bad, 2 days, 2 afters, 2 nights then 4 off.

The management hate it as there have to be 5 rotas instead of 4.

Our new Divisional Commander has made it quite clear that it won't be long until we're back on the old 8 hour shift pattern with the long drags of night shifts which come with it.

Not all bad though, time for a pint after a 2-10 shift which is something we can't do on the current 3-12's.

Shame they shut all the bars... Apart from the one at headquarters which the Chief happens to use!

Deva Link

26,934 posts

276 months

Wednesday 17th October 2007
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He's probably got a few quango posts lined up.

The former Chief Con of Merseyside, James Sharples, is the Chairman of our local hospital trust. There's a bit of a row going on locally as it used to be more or less an honoury job, paying a nominal £15K. A couple of years ago it doubled to £30K and this year it increased to £45K. Not bad for chairing a few meetings, and with his pension means he’s probably earning as much now as if he were still CC.