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Captain Muppet

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8,540 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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I got flashed yesterday at below 40 (still in first gear) in a 30 limit. I'm tempted to whinge bitterly but it was my mistake - anyone who can be "trapped" by a yellow painted box in full view deserves to get caught. There were circumstances leading to this momentary excessive speed but none that change the fact that I broke a limit I knew about near a camera that I could see.

My question is this: Rumour has it that if you pick up six penaulty points within the first two years of passing your test you automatically loose your license. I've had my car license for decades and have never had any points, but I only passed my bike test last year. Will I lose my license if I get six points? (unlikely for the sort of speed I was doing but you never know)

It was a forward facing camera and only flashed once - does this mean it was working or not?

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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Captain Muppet said:
I got flashed yesterday at below 40 (still in first gear) in a 30 limit. I'm tempted to whinge bitterly but it was my mistake - anyone who can be "trapped" by a yellow painted box in full view deserves to get caught. There were circumstances leading to this momentary excessive speed but none that change the fact that I broke a limit I knew about near a camera that I could see.

My question is this: Rumour has it that if you pick up six penaulty points within the first two years of passing your test you automatically loose your license. I've had my car license for decades and have never had any points, but I only passed my bike test last year. Will I lose my license if I get six points? (unlikely for the sort of speed I was doing but you never know)

It was a forward facing camera and only flashed once - does this mean it was working or not?


I think you might get away with this!

The 6 point rule won't effect your bike ticket!

gro

90 posts

281 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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The 6 point rule only applies to you first entitlement, so any subsequent additions (i.e. Motor Cycle) don't count as a new license.

cpearson

149 posts

275 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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i am under the impression that the forward facing camera's only flash once anyway, but i am not sure. you wouldn't get six points for that and even if you did, you would still keep your licences.

mikeylad

32,026 posts

273 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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if it was forward facing and only flashed once i *think* you've got away with it. Only one picture isn't enough.

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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Youre in the clear. Only one flash means at the worst only one photo, they NEED 2.
Have a nice day!

Captain Muppet

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8,540 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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It was really annoying as I'm usually so careful when I'm drunk.

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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loaf

850 posts

281 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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mikeylad said:
if it was forward facing and only flashed once i *think* you've got away with it. Only one picture isn't enough.


If it's a Truvelo they only take one photo, cos teh speed is measured by piezo-thingy strips in the road surface - unlike Gatso, which use a visual reference of lines painted on the ground, and need two photos to get the speed=distance/time thing sorted out.

Captain Muppet

Original Poster:

8,540 posts

285 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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loaf said:

mikeylad said:
if it was forward facing and only flashed once i *think* you've got away with it. Only one picture isn't enough.



If it's a Truvelo they only take one photo, cos teh speed is measured by piezo-thingy strips in the road surface - unlike Gatso, which use a visual reference of lines painted on the ground, and need two photos to get the speed=distance/time thing sorted out.


Arse - that sounds like the bugger. I'm screwed then. Do these things need film or are they digital?

Incidentally Mrs Muppet had her feet on the dash (cooling her toes with the aircon) - if the angle was right can I have a go at the authorities for taking obscene pictures? I could insist they destroy the evidence

madcop

6,649 posts

283 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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Captain Muppet said:
My question is this: Rumour has it that if you pick up six penaulty points within the first two years of passing your test you automatically loose your license.


It is not rumour

captain muppet said:

It was a forward facing camera and only flashed once - does this mean it was working or not?


Depends on the type of camera.
Was it a gatso? If so then you will be ok
Was it a truvello? If so then one photo will do!

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

291 months

Monday 23rd June 2003
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madcop said:

Captain Muppet said:
My question is this: Rumour has it that if you pick up six penaulty points within the first two years of passing your test you automatically loose your license.

It is not rumour
It is a waste of time though. The driving test is a joke. Anyone who can control a car without thinking about it could breeze through it.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

275 months

Tuesday 24th June 2003
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mattjbatch said:

It is a waste of time though. The driving test is a joke. Anyone who can control a car without thinking about it could breeze through it.


I'm not so sure, it's takes a lot of concentration to unlearn the "bad" habits that most people pick up, e.g. not crossing your arms etc. and I'm convinced that a good percentage of drivers don't understand some road signs even though they must have leanred them at some stage.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

283 months

Tuesday 24th June 2003
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I thought Truvelos had an IR flash, so you couldnt see it? I thought that was how they could get away with taking a front facing picture - eg, cos it wont blind you.

A good way of knowing what type of camera it was is by the colour - Truvelos are bright blue, with a large round 'eye' - whereas GATSOs are grey with a square 'eye'.

i think?

Captain Muppet

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8,540 posts

285 months

Wednesday 25th June 2003
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The camera was yellow - how blind am I not to have seen it? Still feeling stupid.
There were no markings on the road so it wasn't a Gatso AFAIK.

Captain Muppet

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8,540 posts

285 months

Tuesday 14th October 2003
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Update (like anyone cares): No ticket, no points.

I can still be smug about my shiny clean license after all these years and pretend that a lack of points means I'm an ace driver.

Now, can I make it through another winter driving an MR2...

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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Captain Muppet said:
The camera was yellow - how blind am I not to have seen it? Still feeling stupid.
There were no markings on the road so it wasn't a Gatso AFAIK.
Are you sure it was not on the other side of the road?

AFAIK, Gastos are the only ones painted yellow (generally on the back) and take rearward facing photographs with a visible double flash and markings on the road.

If you were flashed by a yellow-painted, front facing camera with one visible flash and no markings on the road ... then someone else will have to explain it.

Where was it and in which direction were you travelling?

Streaky

s2ooz

3,005 posts

304 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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Captain Muppet said:
Update (like anyone cares): No ticket, no points.

I can still be smug about my shiny clean license after all these years and pretend that a lack of points means I'm an ace driver.

Now, can I make it through another winter driving an MR2...


if it was forward facing, and your on a bike with no front number plate.....

go as fast as you like past it!! how do you reckon they could ever find out it was you???

Captain Muppet

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8,540 posts

285 months

Wednesday 15th October 2003
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streaky said:

If you were flashed by a yellow-painted, front facing camera with one visible flash and no markings on the road ... then someone else will have to explain it.


Yep, all that. It was on my side of the road.

I was in my car - see the "feet on dashboard" comment above.