Police crackdown

[philbes]

According to teletext - police today ran a 'crack down' on speeding and dangerous motorists in an area of Gloucester. (I found the AND interesting, I would have expected the BBC to miss out the AND)

2 given on the spot fines for using a mobile phone when driving.
8 given on the spot fines for not wearing a seat-belt.
2 arrested for unspecified reasons.
No mention of anyone caught speeding!

Number of police involved not stated.

is this a decent 'haul' for such an operation or would the police have caught more 'dangerous' motorists by driving around? More - as in a higher number and of greater danger.

[Sheriff JWPepper]

Good result for 1 BiB, bit shit for 30 BiBs - who knows.

[FiveStar]

teletext??

[AJS-]

I didn't know you could still get teletext. It seems completely redundant now.

I hate seatbelt fines. Why? I got a whopping AU$500 (about £200) fine for this in Western Australia. I was absolutely livid. Put me off the whole continent to be honest. I haven't really heard of many people getting fined for this here. Maybe it's something they're cracking down on now?

[rewc]

AJS- said:

I didn't know you could still get teletext. It seems completely redundant now.

I hate seatbelt fines. Why? I got a whopping AU$500 (about £200) fine for this in Western Australia. I was absolutely livid. Put me off the whole continent to be honest. I haven't really heard of many people getting fined for this here. Maybe it's something they're cracking down on now?

The Australians are very anal about this type of thing. I had recently arrived in Sydney in 1995 and parked legally sitting in my hire car. I saw a Traffic Warden, strickenly dressed as an overgrown Boy Scout, standing on the pavement and nodded to him and he responded. 5 minutes later he put a ticket on my car as the parking restriction had changes 2 minutes earlier. I asked him why he hadn't warned me but it was like talking to a deaf and dumb person he just looked through me.

[iaha]

AJS- said:

I didn't know you could still get teletext. It seems completely redundant now.

I hate seatbelt fines. Why? I got a whopping AU$500 (about £200) fine for this in Western Australia. I was absolutely livid. Put me off the whole continent to be honest. I haven't really heard of many people getting fined for this here. Maybe it's something they're cracking down on now?

It's usually a campaign thing, advert in local paper telling everyone we're cracking down on seatbelts, then ticket those who either won't wear them or don't buy the local paper.

Car driver with no seatelt (depending also on car type) is often a good indicator of other possible offences too - con&use, insurance, mot, as it (often, not always) indicates a leisurely attitude to road legality.


Most of us would also take a driver carrying unbelted kids to task.

[EU_Foreigner]

The belt is such a habit, I even put on the belt driving from the beginning of the drive into the garage ...

Not sure why you would chose not to wear a belt by the way

[AJS-]

Sometimes if I'm moving an unfamiliar car into or out of a tight space I prefer to have a bit more movement. I suppose I could move with the seat belt on fine, just personal preference I guess. So I usually put it on after I pull away.

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

[FiveStar]

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

[iaha]

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

I guess it might be because we all have to pay the costs when it does go wrong.

[Jasandjules]

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

That depends on whether or not your body exits the vehicle and causes further damage, let alone the fact that you body may move around inside the vehicle and kill or injure others in there with you.

[vonhosen]

Jasandjules said:

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

That depends on whether or not your body exits the vehicle and causes further damage, let alone the fact that you body may move around inside the vehicle and kill or injure others in there with you.

And cause the road to be closed for hours if you are likely to die & the health risk to people dealing with you while you bleed profusely everywhere.

[archie456]

AJS- said:

I didn't know you could still get teletext. It seems completely redundant now.

It's more a brand than a TV service now.... see here

[TripleS]

iaha said:

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

I guess it might be because we all have to pay the costs when it does go wrong.

So do we extend the principle to those who engage in dangerous sports? Where does it all end?

A compulsory two mile run before breakfast each day, and various other health maintenence policies?

....and then what?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

[vonhosen]

TripleS said:

iaha said:

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

I guess it might be because we all have to pay the costs when it does go wrong.

So do we extend the principle to those who engage in dangerous sports? Where does it all end?

A compulsory two mile run before breakfast each day, and various other health maintenence policies?

....and then what?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

We already do.
If you go up the top of a tall building & base jump off, there is a chance you'll get arrested if caught.

[TripleS]

vonhosen said:

TripleS said:

iaha said:

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

I guess it might be because we all have to pay the costs when it does go wrong.

So do we extend the principle to those who engage in dangerous sports? Where does it all end?

A compulsory two mile run before breakfast each day, and various other health maintenence policies?

....and then what?

Best wishes all,
Dave.

We already do.
If you go up the top of a tall building & base jump off, there is a chance you'll get arrested if caught.

Are you volunteering to catch me? Are you well padded?

I told you all that panini consumption would do you no good.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

[stara]

vonhosen said:

Jasandjules said:

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

That depends on whether or not your body exits the vehicle and causes further damage, let alone the fact that you body may move around inside the vehicle and kill or injure others in there with you.

And cause the road to be closed for hours if you are likely to die & the health risk to people dealing with you while you bleed profusely everywhere.

my brother is still having nightmares about the fatal accident that happened in front of him on the M4 in the s.wales area a few months ago, a newish car swerved into the central barrier, the drivers door popped open as the car entered a spin, and the driver was ejected and struck by the following traffic, if the guy had had his seatbelt on, he more than likely would have walked away as the damage to the car wasnt severe. the M4 was closed for about 9 hours, both directions.
And another local car accident cost the lives of 4 young girls who were all thrown from the crashed vehicle as none of them had belts on, the driver and front passenger both wearing belts survived.
sorry if this is upsetting, but it highlights how important seatbelts can be.

[vonhosen]

stara said:

vonhosen said:

Jasandjules said:

AJS- said:

The point is though, I don't see why I shouldn't be able to do something that endangers nobody except myself.

That depends on whether or not your body exits the vehicle and causes further damage, let alone the fact that you body may move around inside the vehicle and kill or injure others in there with you.

And cause the road to be closed for hours if you are likely to die & the health risk to people dealing with you while you bleed profusely everywhere.

my brother is still having nightmares about the fatal accident that happened in front of him on the M4 in the s.wales area a few months ago, a newish car swerved into the central barrier, the drivers door popped open as the car entered a spin, and the driver was ejected and struck by the following traffic, if the guy had had his seatbelt on, he more than likely would have walked away as the damage to the car wasnt severe. the M4 was closed for about 9 hours, both directions.
And another local car accident cost the lives of 4 young girls who were all thrown from the crashed vehicle as none of them had belts on, the driver and front passenger both wearing belts survived.
sorry if this is upsetting, but it highlights how important seatbelts can be.

40% of those who were killed following a crash in Police pursuits, were not wearing their seatbelt.

[ec1 eex]

vonhosen said:

40% of those who were killed following a crash in Police pursuits, were not wearing their seatbelt.

So there's a 60% chance of being killed following a crash in a Police pursuit if you are wearing a seat belt? I'll take my chances with the 40% crowd thank you.

[Santa Claws]

FiveStar said:

teletext??

Indeed.

What is this "teletext" contraption of which you speak of?