section 59 and sussex police
section 59 and sussex police
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SplatSpeed

Original Poster:

7,491 posts

282 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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ok i have two brothers with section 59's

one with one and one with two

how many before they take the car???

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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The one with two warnings (if within 12 months) should have had the car taken off of him. Lucky by the sounds of it.

On the second incident the vehicle can be taken away.

HTH

Sheriff JWPepper

3,851 posts

235 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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SplatSpeed said:
ok i have two brothers with section 59's

one with one and one with two

how many before they take the car???
Don't let them drive yours wink

Chiefbadger

423 posts

229 months

Sunday 28th October 2007
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Did either of them ever actually get any paperwork through? As I understand it, Sussex police have developed a bit of a habit of trying to scare people with these when pulling them over, but never actually sending any paperwork. Does anyone know the situation on these?

SplatSpeed

Original Poster:

7,491 posts

282 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Chiefbadger said:
Did either of them ever actually get any paperwork through? As I understand it, Sussex police have developed a bit of a habit of trying to scare people with these when pulling them over, but never actually sending any paperwork. Does anyone know the situation on these?
sounds like sussex police

Psychlist

110 posts

230 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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SplatSpeed said:
Chiefbadger said:
Did either of them ever actually get any paperwork through? As I understand it, Sussex police have developed a bit of a habit of trying to scare people with these when pulling them over, but never actually sending any paperwork. Does anyone know the situation on these?
sounds like sussex police
Got one (just over 2 years ago wink )after gently filtering through some traffic on the Chichester bypass on my 998, never got any paperwork and didn't volunteer to sign his form either!

FiveStar

760 posts

235 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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wasted years said:
The one with two warnings (if within 12 months) should have had the car taken off of him.
Whats happens once they take the car? Is it like no insurance where you just go and pay to collect the car? Do you get points?

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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FiveStar said:
Is it like no insurance where you just go and pay to collect the car?
Yes. Just over a hundred quid plus £12 per day 'storage', IIRC..

FiveStar said:
Do you get points?
Not for a s.59, no..

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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What happens if you buy a car on which an S59 has been placed? Is there a central data-base on which this can be checked, like HPI, and is there any way a new owner can log his new ownership and get the S59 removed?

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Monday 29th October 2007
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Cooperman said:
Is there a central data-base on which this can be checked, like HPI...
PNC ?

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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SS2. said:
Cooperman said:
Is there a central data-base on which this can be checked, like HPI...
PNC ?
So how do I access this to check before buying a car?

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Cooperman said:
SS2. said:
Cooperman said:
Is there a central data-base on which this can be checked, like HPI...
PNC ?
So how do I access this to check before buying a car?
That's my point - I don't know if it's possible...

Dibble

13,292 posts

271 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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I'm not sure if it can be removed - s59 applies to vehicle and driver.

This is to cater for the scenario of a "pool car", which is badly driven by a number of bad drivers.

Not sure how it would work in practice if the car was sold on to Mr N Ormal.

T5SOR

2,032 posts

256 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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I got one about 2 years ago for going slightly over the limit. Didn't get anything through the post.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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SplatSpeed said:
ok i have two brothers with section 59's
Nasty bit of fascist twuntery - do everything in your power to bring S59 and those that use it into disrepute.

Dibble

13,292 posts

271 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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fluffnik said:
SplatSpeed said:
ok i have two brothers with section 59's
Nasty bit of fascist twuntery - do everything in your power to bring S59 and those that use it into disrepute.
The idea behind it is a good one (ie get nuisance vehicles/drivers) off the roads, but I can see how it could easily be abused.

It was brought in as a "quick fix" really.

7db

6,060 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Fix in haste, repent in leisure.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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7db said:
Fix in haste, repent in leisure.
yes

Psychlist

110 posts

230 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Dibble said:
fluffnik said:
SplatSpeed said:
ok i have two brothers with section 59's
Nasty bit of fascist twuntery - do everything in your power to bring S59 and those that use it into disrepute.
The idea behind it is a good one (ie get nuisance vehicles/drivers) off the roads, but I can see how it could easily be abused.

It was brought in as a "quick fix" really.
The chap that stopped me said he'd been _told to give them to all bikers coming from Bury Hill_ because they'd had a spate of reports from motorists who had been shocked by motorbikes overtaking them. SO, ALL bikers? angel

JulianHJ

8,871 posts

293 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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I use it occasionally, but I reserve it for when I've seen people driving like gimps.