answer to not getting caught speeding......

[Flea Bag]

don't speed !!!!

I've now given everybody the secret (seems some people didn't know that, judging by the fact they are still getting caught) to not getting caught for speeding...so, if any of you who read this now go and get caught for speeding, it's your own fault (certainly not the fault of the person detecting you)

[ylee coyote]

sorry that does not work

the scameras will get you by hook or by slip

[Flea Bag]

ylee coyote said:

sorry that does not work

the scameras will get you by hook or by slip

you'll still get prosecuted for doing say? 115 mph on the M1 if you're only doing 70mph will you?

[Vipers]

Flea Bag said:

don't speed !!!!

I've now given everybody the secret (seems some people didn't know that, judging by the fact they are still getting caught) to not getting caught for speeding...so, if any of you who read this now go and get caught for speeding, it's your own fault (certainly not the fault of the person detecting you)

Worked for me also for the past 38 years, but you have gone and told the world our secret?

[Flea Bag]

I just don't understand the attitude the vocal minority on here have of "they're persecuting us by enforcing the law"

why not stop them from "persecuting" you by NOT giving them a chance to presecute you?

why break the law then moan like a bitch that you're hard done to because you got prosecuted for your own actions???? seems back to front to me?

Edited by Flea Bag on Sunday 28th October 16:42

[Globulator]

Flea Bag said:

don't speed !!!!

I've now given everybody the secret (seems some people didn't know that, judging by the fact they are still getting caught) to not getting caught for speeding...so, if any of you who read this now go and get caught for speeding, it's your own fault (certainly not the fault of the person detecting you)

Shame these people didn't know it was that easy:

Speed trap fines are scrapped in blunder

article said:

"A sign marking the start of a 20mph speed limit zone on Upper Thames Street is incorrectly positioned.

"As a consequence motorists were being monitored for a 20mph limit whilst still in the 30mph zone for a short distance. We will refund all the fines paid and cancel all the licence endorsements. Whilst the signs are repositioned, mobile cameras will operate."

Nearly 5,600 motorists are affected by the error, it is understood. The fines refund will total at least £335,800.

The LSCP decided on the refunds at its project board meeting earlier this week, the Standard has learned. The partnership is now braced for legal action from furious drivers who may wrongly have lost their licences.

Not everyone caught speeding actually is.

BTW, I was cruising at just over 100mph for about 2.5hours solid the week before last, and I didn't die or have any problems at all. Saved a lot of time too.

[VictorMeldrew]

Do you actually drive? Serious question.

It's just that someone with such a simplistic outlook on life must find it really hard to make decisions in complex situations.

[s2art]

Flea Bag said:

don't speed !!!!

I've now given everybody the secret (seems some people didn't know that, judging by the fact they are still getting caught) to not getting caught for speeding...so, if any of you who read this now go and get caught for speeding, it's your own fault (certainly not the fault of the person detecting you)

Only an idiot, or someone completely unaware of the errors that Laser guns make can make such a statement. It doesnt matter if you are speeding or not, you can still get done.

[Flea Bag]

VictorMeldrew said:

Do you actually drive? Serious question.

It's just that someone with such a simplistic outlook on life must find it really hard to make decisions in complex situations.

Yes, i drive.... been driving for 22 years and never been caught speeding

If i had have been caught (and i still might one of these days) then i'd have just though "its a fair cop, i was speeding and got caught" i vertainly wouldn't have moaned like a bitch that it's not fair, they're all out to persecute us etc etc etc (fill in any one of the multitude of moans that some people on here make)

I speed, but amazingly for me i seem to be able to spot fixed speed cameras, mobile vans, vans sitting above the motorway.... and if one day i don't spot one when i'm going faster than the speed limit, i'll take it like a man and not moan like the little bitches some people on here seem to be

[Trax]

Its not the fact that we get cought that irks most here, its the fact that there is not really any point in the extent that speed enforcement is carried out.

It does not save lives, does not alter peoples attitude to driving, and has no relevance to road safety.

There are many laws which get broken as a matter of course through an average persons day to day life, speeding is the least relevant.

[Flea Bag]

Trax said:

Its not the fact that we get cought that irks most here, its the fact that there is not really any point in the extent that speed enforcement is carried out.

It does not save lives, does not alter peoples attitude to driving, and has no relevance to road safety.

There are many laws which get broken as a matter of course through an average persons day to day life, speeding is the least relevant.

eh? because people still break a law, we should stop trying to enforce that law?

Is speeding the least relevent law to a grieving mother whos little boy has been killed by somebody doing 50 in a 30mph zone and lost control and knocked him down?

[GreenV8S]

The only reason I see for obeying the speed limit is that the law says we must. There's no inherent merit to it. It's a law which is broken routinely by the majority of drivers with no harm or significant danger. Picking a few of them and penalising them harshly seems unreasonable to me. If the speed limits and thresholds for prosecution were set high enough that only drivers who are clearly driving at an inappropriate speed are penalised, I'd have no problem. As it is, speed limits make criminals of drivers who are driving sensibly and safely but happen to exceed an arbitrary limit. By encouraging drivers to pay undue attention to speed limits and speed limit enforcement, I believe we are distracting them from paying attention to real hazards and teaching them NOT to choose a safe and appropriate speed for themselves. This increases the danger that on the rare occasion that the safe and appropriate speed is below the speed limit, drivers will fail to slow down. Speed limit enforcement: a solution in search of a problem.

[s2art]

Flea Bag said:

Trax said:

Its not the fact that we get cought that irks most here, its the fact that there is not really any point in the extent that speed enforcement is carried out.

It does not save lives, does not alter peoples attitude to driving, and has no relevance to road safety.

There are many laws which get broken as a matter of course through an average persons day to day life, speeding is the least relevant.

eh? because people still break a law, we should stop trying to enforce that law?

Is speeding the least relevent law to a grieving mother whos little boy has been killed by somebody doing 50 in a 30mph zone and lost control and knocked him down?

Yes, because the vast majority of accidents are caused by other than speeding. Speeding is the least of a mothers worries.

[Flea Bag]

s2art said:

Flea Bag said:

Trax said:

Its not the fact that we get cought that irks most here, its the fact that there is not really any point in the extent that speed enforcement is carried out.

It does not save lives, does not alter peoples attitude to driving, and has no relevance to road safety.

There are many laws which get broken as a matter of course through an average persons day to day life, speeding is the least relevant.

eh? because people still break a law, we should stop trying to enforce that law?

Is speeding the least relevent law to a grieving mother whos little boy has been killed by somebody doing 50 in a 30mph zone and lost control and knocked him down?

Yes, because the vast majority of accidents are caused by other than speeding. Speeding is the least of a mothers worries.

but to the mother who HAS had her son knocked down by somebody doing 50 in a 30 (and it does happen) how relevent do you think the speed laws are to her?

[Woolfie]

FB..no point in your post; not original and will not result in a rounded discussion within this forum. Try another tack to get a discussion going, maybe highlighting your point by some recent case in point (ie try to make it interesting).

[CommanderJameson]

Flea Bag said:

s2art said:

Flea Bag said:

Trax said:

Its not the fact that we get cought that irks most here, its the fact that there is not really any point in the extent that speed enforcement is carried out.

It does not save lives, does not alter peoples attitude to driving, and has no relevance to road safety.

There are many laws which get broken as a matter of course through an average persons day to day life, speeding is the least relevant.

eh? because people still break a law, we should stop trying to enforce that law?

Is speeding the least relevent law to a grieving mother whos little boy has been killed by somebody doing 50 in a 30mph zone and lost control and knocked him down?

Yes, because the vast majority of accidents are caused by other than speeding. Speeding is the least of a mothers worries.

but to the mother who HAS had her son knocked down by somebody doing 50 in a 30 (and it does happen) how relevent do you think the speed laws are to her?

Emotive tripe. We should ban anything with a sharp edge or point, because what about the mother who HAS had her son stabbed to death?

[DeMolay]

Flea Bag said:

I speed

I see.

You've nothing against speeding per se then? Strange, in your opening gambit you suggest that people "don't speed" and they won't get caught. To call this a contradiction would be obvious, but so obvious you haven't spotted it yourself.

As has been posted on this thread, obeying the speed limit may not necessarily mean you won't get nabbed. Faulty gear/positioning/use has become commonplace, and thousands upon thousands of people have received points on their licences when they should not have had them.

In any event, your analysis is way too simple to be taken seriously as a constructive basis for discussion. I suggest you do some more reading and come back when you have something more to say.

[s2art]

Flea Bag said:

s2art said:

Flea Bag said:

Trax said:

Its not the fact that we get cought that irks most here, its the fact that there is not really any point in the extent that speed enforcement is carried out.

It does not save lives, does not alter peoples attitude to driving, and has no relevance to road safety.

There are many laws which get broken as a matter of course through an average persons day to day life, speeding is the least relevant.

eh? because people still break a law, we should stop trying to enforce that law?

Is speeding the least relevent law to a grieving mother whos little boy has been killed by somebody doing 50 in a 30mph zone and lost control and knocked him down?

Yes, because the vast majority of accidents are caused by other than speeding. Speeding is the least of a mothers worries.

but to the mother who HAS had her son knocked down by somebody doing 50 in a 30 (and it does happen) how relevent do you think the speed laws are to her?

What is the point on focussing on something that hardly ever happens compared to all the kids killed by non-speeding drivers.

[KB_S1]

Flea Bag said:

s2art said:

Flea Bag said:

Trax said:

Its not the fact that we get cought that irks most here, its the fact that there is not really any point in the extent that speed enforcement is carried out.

It does not save lives, does not alter peoples attitude to driving, and has no relevance to road safety.

There are many laws which get broken as a matter of course through an average persons day to day life, speeding is the least relevant.

eh? because people still break a law, we should stop trying to enforce that law?

Is speeding the least relevent law to a grieving mother whos little boy has been killed by somebody doing 50 in a 30mph zone and lost control and knocked him down?

Yes, because the vast majority of accidents are caused by other than speeding. Speeding is the least of a mothers worries.

but to the mother who HAS had her son knocked down by somebody doing 50 in a 30 (and it does happen) how relevent do you think the speed laws are to her?

They are misguided and inappropriate.

How can you guarantee that the driver would not have hit and killed the boy at 30? If someone is unable to stop for a hazard there is far more problems than just their current speed.

[Flea Bag]

http://www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/campaigns/slowdo...

[b]Key statistics

You are more likely to kill a pedestrian driving at 40mph than 30mph.
Specifically, if you hit a pedestrian while driving at 20 mph, the pedestrian has a 95% chance of survival.
If you hit an adult pedestrian while driving at 30mph, the survival chance is 80%. But if you hit a pedestrian while driving at 40mph, the pedestrian's chances of dying rises to 90%. (this lowers to 80% for a child).
General

Exceeding the speed limit or travelling too fast for the conditions is a contributory factor in over 790 deaths and over 34,600 injuries every year (RCGB 2005).
On average, nearly nine people die every day on Britain's roads.
Every driver can make a difference just by slowing down a few miles per hour and observing speed limits.
The law of physics dictate that the higher the speed at impact, the more energy must be rapidly absorbed by hard metal, soft flesh and brittle bone.
72% of crashes where people are killed or injured happen on roads where the speed limit is 40mph or less (RCGB 2005).[/b]

Edited by Flea Bag on Sunday 28th October 17:12