signature on a parking ticket
signature on a parking ticket
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tvrolet

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4,769 posts

313 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Just dropped off my mother at the Western General hospital in Edinburgh - known for not having enough parking - to find I've got a parking ticket on my return. And judging by the time, the little sh!t of a warden muat have seen me help her out the car an into admissions with a suitcase. On 'single yellows' too; what I didn't note was a) that it was no parking on the single yellows 8:30-17:30, and the cars already parked there and unticketed had disabled or doctor signs on the dashboard.

OK, it's a fair cop, but rather heartless given it is 'the' only place to park and drop off patients. But I note the ticket has a place for the warden's signature, in which the sh!t has has scribbled an 'x'. I'm guessing that the warden's signature is required...otherwise why have a signature line? I'm also guessing that while at various times in history the illiterate may have been allowed to make their mark with an 'x', that an 'x' is probably not this bloke's actual signature. So, if I marked an 'x' on any form of legal document it surely wouldn't stand up?

So, is there a case to request that the 'x' is indeed confirmed as the warden's signature, perhaps by comparison to the signature he has on his bank card, credit card or whatever?

Plan B is to send in payment with a cheque that I sign with an 'x', and make the point that if they cann't get money out of my account with an 'x', then perhaps their ticket is similarly invalid; and if they do get the cash...then good on them.

So, is a 'proper' signature required on a parking ticket to make it legal?


mark69sheer

3,906 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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I think the sig will be irrelevent a recent ticket I had was the same.
Its probably so irate motorists can't track them down through the phone book.

An X is a legal signature if it is recorded officially on bank mandates or other legal documents first.

My father had a stroke and he is able to sign with an x.

FiveStar

760 posts

235 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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tvrolet said:
Plan B is to send in payment with a cheque that I sign with an 'x', and make the point that if they cann't get money out of my account with an 'x', then perhaps their ticket is similarly invalid; and if they do get the cash...then good on them.
yes

joewilliams

2,004 posts

232 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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It's extremely likely that the bank wouldn't even notice the X on your cheque and pay it out anyway.

MiniMac

8,016 posts

234 months

Tuesday 30th October 2007
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Does he need to watch the car for 5 mins prior to issuing ticket?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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A penalty charge notice must state—

(a) the grounds on which the parking attendant believes that a penalty charge is payable with respect to the vehicle;

(b) the amount of the penalty charge which is payable;

(c) that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;

(d) that if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of the notice, the amount of the penalty charge will be reduced by the specified proportion;

(e) that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, a notice to owner may be served by the London authority on the person appearing to them to be the owner of the vehicle;

(f) the address to which payment of the penalty charge must be sent.

Road Traffic Act 1991.

No requirement that it be signed.

Do check to confirm that it has TWO dates on i.e, Date of issue and date of offence. Some LA tickets do not have this and are illegal. More inf if you wish.

dvd


Edited by Dwight VanDriver on Wednesday 31st October 07:54

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Also check that the parking signs and road markings comply with the requirements laid down (see elsewhere in here and on www.pepipoo.com ) - Streaky

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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..... and that there is a Traffic Regulation Order covering that bit of road.....

dvd

tvrolet

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4,769 posts

313 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Dwight VanDriver said:
..... and that there is a Traffic Regulation Order covering that bit of road.....

dvd
Traffic Regulation Order? I find this out from where?

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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Local Authority (Highways) of the area where the lines are.

dvd

catso

16,538 posts

298 months

Wednesday 31st October 2007
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The warden is probably illiterate, I believe it is a requirement for the job, well either that or illegitimate.... rolleyes