7 Years: Long Enough?
Discussion
A1 driver gets 7 years.
I agree with the custodial portion of the sentence, but would have liked to have seen him banned for longer on release.
A sobering tale for anyone who's driven early on a morning after a session the night before.
I agree with the custodial portion of the sentence, but would have liked to have seen him banned for longer on release.
A sobering tale for anyone who's driven early on a morning after a session the night before.
There seams to be a lot of superficial evidence creeping into motoring court cases lately. "there was evidence that suggests he was over the drink drive limit"
"The likelihood is that he was in the process of dozing off or had dozed off."
"There was also evidence that Easton had been using his mobile phone shortly before the accident, but it was not known whether he had been on the phone at the point of impact."
He did not , by the sound of it give a positive blood test.
He did not plough through the middle of their car the "Citroen Saxo was clipped by Easton's Ford Transit van"
We all could clip a car that spins and then hits a tree. There is a large element of bad luck involved in this accident.
I am surprised that he got such a long sentence on such flimsy evidence. There must be people who have had a string of convictions for drink drive and then had a fatal crash whilst 3 times the limit with who got shorter sentences.
I don't drink drive , or party all night but many do. I have 40 year old colleagues who come into work and need a catchup sleep to recover from the weekends excesses
If he was drunk and tired, it might be the right sentence. But the evidence is not there.
The other question that should be asked is why a duel carriagway road... the A1 has trees rather than crash barriers at the side
"The likelihood is that he was in the process of dozing off or had dozed off."
"There was also evidence that Easton had been using his mobile phone shortly before the accident, but it was not known whether he had been on the phone at the point of impact."
He did not , by the sound of it give a positive blood test.
He did not plough through the middle of their car the "Citroen Saxo was clipped by Easton's Ford Transit van"
We all could clip a car that spins and then hits a tree. There is a large element of bad luck involved in this accident.
I am surprised that he got such a long sentence on such flimsy evidence. There must be people who have had a string of convictions for drink drive and then had a fatal crash whilst 3 times the limit with who got shorter sentences.
I don't drink drive , or party all night but many do. I have 40 year old colleagues who come into work and need a catchup sleep to recover from the weekends excesses
If he was drunk and tired, it might be the right sentence. But the evidence is not there.
The other question that should be asked is why a duel carriagway road... the A1 has trees rather than crash barriers at the side
Edited by tony13579 on Saturday 3rd November 15:45
the bbc news film clip on the bbc news web page
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/no...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/no...
Edited by tony13579 on Saturday 3rd November 16:22
Mr2Mike said:
tony13579 said:
There seams to be a lot of superficial evidence creeping into motoring court cases lately. "there was evidence that suggests he was over the drink drive limit"
Where did that quote come from?would someone explain what that means please
[naive]alc test/lion intoximeter/blood test at hospital, conclusive evidence no? [/naive]
actually I take the drink drive bit back, It was just poor reporting.
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/Court-has-let-u...
"Prosecutor Andrew Dallas said analysis of Easton's blood alcohol level after the accident showed he had approximately 105mg of alcohol per 120mg of blood. The legal limit is 80mg."
Obviously the bbc reporter was not at the court case.
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/Court-has-let-u...
"Prosecutor Andrew Dallas said analysis of Easton's blood alcohol level after the accident showed he had approximately 105mg of alcohol per 120mg of blood. The legal limit is 80mg."
Obviously the bbc reporter was not at the court case.
tony13579 said:
We all could clip a car that spins and then hits a tree. There is a large element of bad luck involved in this accident.
Sigh.... I am surprised liebster von has not commented. A1 - dual carriageway for starts. He drifted out of lane perhaps to clip this car. This not "speed lentilism here"
- but this NSL dual carriageway which mean speeds can be anywhere in range from 60 mph// 70 mph or marginally above
as we know to be case regardless of scam dogma. A clip by two cars each at such normal-ish speeds for this road would result in kinetic force which would cause one to spin off. A lot of roads do have trees und bushes at the side. Especially if housing estates nearby as it shields their view und the trees provide some "lungs" for the environment too
.But even if hit crash barrier und rolled down embankment .. we still looking at tragedy here.
There no real bad luck. He had skinful the night before per the hearing und had not slept either.
His sentence reflect to me that he made bad decision to drive a car when unfit to do so. I have a bit of a "thing" about such things

(I had one muppet the other day on roundabout series. In each one he in outer lane but as he set off.. on each occasion he came inwards towards my car. Fortunately - I happen to look und never take anything for granted at any one time. I did follow him to shopping centre where I mentioned, very politely, that I had had to take evasive action more than once. Village idiot was clearly suffering from some fatigue as he yawning head off - watery eyes. I did subtle decent und bought him a coffee from nearby fast food place. Suggested he rest before he set off again.)
tony13579 said:
I don't drink drive , or party all night but many do. I have 40 year old colleagues who come into work and need a catchup sleep to recover from the weekends excesses
I would be sacking them for sleeping. They paid to do fair day's work for fair day's pay after all.
Bosses should not be paying someone to have hangover in their time. 
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