Duration of driving bans
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medieval

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1,499 posts

242 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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Afternoon all - through my own stupid fault, I have just acquired a further three points making a total of nine now.

Clearly my main concern is a potential ban if I reach the dreaded twelve so my question is what sort of ban duration could I receive for a non drink drive related issues where cumulative points have resulted in the ban.

Subjective I appreciate but I would just like to be forewarned if possible.

Kind regars all

stuthemong

2,534 posts

248 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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Christ I feel a spoilsport saying this, but on 9 points just slow it down a bit. At any time that you are in excess of the limit from now on you will potentially face a ban, slow down until the oldest 3 points have ticked out, then carry on!!!

Edited by stuthemong on Thursday 8th November 15:26

TTwiggy

11,884 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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I believe, though thankfully I have no first hand knowledge, that totting up bans can be quite lengthy. A friend of mine got 6 months for totting up, but that was in the early 1990s.

Cooperman

4,428 posts

281 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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It's normally 6 months minimum.
Whilst on nine points you really have no option but to be scrupulous about observing all speed limits completely.
Alternatively, get a foreign registered car and bring it, legally, to the UK. It's easy to do and makes you virtually immune from cameras, but there is a cost attached. If your 9 points have over 18 months to run, then it is possibly worth the cost.
If you want to know how to do this, email me.

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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A totting ban (12 or more points in any 3 year period) results in a mandatory 6 month ban unless the defendant can convince the court that to disqualify would result in exceptional hardship (primarily to others)..

medieval

Original Poster:

1,499 posts

242 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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Thanks chaps - yes you are all quite right and far greater care and less speed is certainly the answer but doing 35k to 50k miles a year its all so easy to fall into bad habits. Bizzarely, it makes things worse knowing that its all my own fault.

The ban length is a concern as I must admit I had thought it was a time span measured in weeks rather than months so I will have to be careful.

Kind regards all.

NugentS

699 posts

278 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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medieval said:
Thanks chaps - yes you are all quite right and far greater care and less speed is certainly the answer but doing 35k to 50k miles a year its all so easy to fall into bad habits. Bizzarely, it makes things worse knowing that its all my own fault.

The ban length is a concern as I must admit I had thought it was a time span measured in weeks rather than months so I will have to be careful.

Kind regards all.
Nope - 12 points = 6 months...
There is insurance you can buy that pays for alternative transport - but its still (I guess) one hell of an inconveniance. Also they may not take you at 9 points..

Sean

WeirdNeville

6,050 posts

246 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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Have you considered (or taken) any kind of advanced driver training that might make you more aware of speed limits but also improve your observation and anticipation to the point where you might become a bit better at spotting cameras, vans and lurking traffic cars?

I think this might be a better option then simply resigning yourself to you fate....

Funk

27,788 posts

240 months

Thursday 8th November 2007
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medieval said:
Afternoon all - through my own stupid fault, I have just acquired a further three points making a total of nine now.

Clearly my main concern is a potential ban if I reach the dreaded twelve so my question is what sort of ban duration could I receive for a non drink drive related issues where cumulative points have resulted in the ban.

Subjective I appreciate but I would just like to be forewarned if possible.

Kind regars all
Friend of mine got 28 days on a totting up offence. Me? I did it in style - 0-banned in one fell swoop...for three months! laugh

You'll deffo be in court, and the magistrate said my friend was lucky to get away with 28 days - it's normally 3 months and up..

GF350

805 posts

297 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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Have you thought about getting a road angel or other gps camera locator.
If you download the updates regularly they are very effective.
It won't help with the laser guns(you'll need a laser jammer for that - but they are illegal now).
The foreign registered car seems like a good idea if it will work.

Edited by GF350 on Friday 9th November 00:07

SS2.

14,712 posts

269 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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Funk said:
You'll deffo be in court, and the magistrate said my friend was lucky to get away with 28 days - it's normally 3 months and up..
A totting up ban is a minimum of 6 months..

Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 said:
35. Disqualification for repeated offences.

(2) The minimum period referred to in subsection (1) above is—

(a) six months if no previous disqualification imposed on the offender is to be taken into account, and

(b) one year if one, and two years if more than one, such disqualification is to be taken into account;

and a previous disqualification imposed on an offender is to be taken into account if it was for a fixed period of 56 days or more and was imposed within the three years immediately preceding the commission of the latest offence in respect of which penalty points are taken into account under section 29 of this Act.

nelly1

5,666 posts

262 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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medieval said:
Thanks chaps - yes you are all quite right and far greater care and less speed is certainly the answer but doing 35k to 50k miles a year its all so easy to fall into bad habits. Bizzarely, it makes things worse knowing that its all my own fault...
You could take the view that it's actually the fault of all those lowered speed limits on perfectly good roads and the proliferation of scameras, and that you, like millions of others are being criminalised unnecessarily when you were in fact driving perfectly safely, while millions of scumbags are driving without licenses / insurance / no plates / etc, without fear of any meaningful recrimination...

...but I doubt it will make you feel much better!

Chin up mate and toe that line! rolleyes

LeoSayer

7,851 posts

275 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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Get a big sticker on the back of your car that says 'On 9 points, please pass'.

R_U_LOCAL

2,708 posts

239 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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Stop driving in these...



And start driving in these...



Perhaps accompanied with one of these...



wink

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

233 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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At one point I was doing 60k miles per year on 11 points yikes

Only for 2 months though thankfully, then 6 vanished.

medieval

Original Poster:

1,499 posts

242 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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Yes I hear you all chaps and thanks for the advice.

Slow lane only from now on sadly - irritatingly did this all day possibly to excess and it is amazing how may people now speed even to the point that the flow of the traffic is much in excess of the appointed speed limit.

I shall probably become a hazard now - almost like a mobile chicane whilst adhering the the speed limit but needs must.

I am just concerned that I will become the speed equivalent of the new non smokers - red faced, fist shaking and shouting "road hog!!" to all who pass by.

Regards all and safe motoring. driving

Fats25

6,260 posts

260 months

Friday 9th November 2007
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I rode and drove approximately 70,000 miles in 3 years on 9 points (give or take two weeks). All my offences came in two weeks. 4 year removal period (3 for totting up) arrived middle of October 2007.

1 day before that 4 year mark - I was caught doing a very high (gonna be a ban- awaiting summons now) speed on the motorway.

Annoyed - you could say that!

As someone that has driven for 3 years with 9 points, I think I would rather take the expense hit on the insurance of a short ban and no points, rather than a hefty points penalty. Especially with the news on the homepage about "easy" 6 point penalties for speeding.

Edited by Fats25 on Friday 9th November 20:18