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Don't get me wrong, It's deplorable the lassie was killed and sickening that the person who killed her while inebriated out of his tiny mind is now walking free, but can someone tell me how Brake can justify using this case to promote 'speed awareness'?
Have they even considered educating children properly on road use?
http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/article.php?sec=1&...
Have they even considered educating children properly on road use?
http://www.dunfermlinepress.com/article.php?sec=1&...
Do they have a discussion forum? Thats the first time I've been on that site, I was going through a village near me in the 911 doing about 25mph early morning when the school run was out and had some bint in a BRAKE hi-viz vest jump out in front of me going off on one, looked back and there was a whole rake of them pushing the kids with these vests on.
I have no words for that site. Is it possible that they are some of the reason people choose to not go above 40mph? In case a 3 year old kid wonders out on the M1?
Can we start a registered charity called Throttle/Accelerate?
I have no words for that site. Is it possible that they are some of the reason people choose to not go above 40mph? In case a 3 year old kid wonders out on the M1?
Can we start a registered charity called Throttle/Accelerate?
Edited by r5gttgaz on Friday 9th November 10:54
r5gttgaz said:
Do they have a discussion forum?
Dunno about that, but I'm in the process of tyoping an eMail to the Editor.You local then R5? Just wondering as you said that was the first time you'd been on that site. Figured you wouldn't have reason to unless you're local.
Edited by Big Rod on Friday 9th November 11:03
This is just typical of Brake quoted in the paper....
Just because 51% of children are in fear of being knocked down by a car doesn't mean that they are. Just because 49% of children believe that roads around their school are dangerous doesn't mean that they are. These are children we're talking about, and they don't know. It's not their fault: they don't drive -- how would they know? They're children: how would they know they're being manipulated and used?
But it's much easier to govern by survey and focus group than to marshall hard facts that disprove popular opinion and so do what's right rather than what's popular.
Brake said:
A Brake survey of more than 1400 Scottish children showed 44 per cent had been hit or nearly hit by a vehicle while walking, 49 per cent believed the roads around their school are dangerous and 51 per cent were in fear of being knocked down.
It's the same approach as the survey last week that proved that global warming is happening because 75% of people believe it is (or some such figure).Just because 51% of children are in fear of being knocked down by a car doesn't mean that they are. Just because 49% of children believe that roads around their school are dangerous doesn't mean that they are. These are children we're talking about, and they don't know. It's not their fault: they don't drive -- how would they know? They're children: how would they know they're being manipulated and used?
But it's much easier to govern by survey and focus group than to marshall hard facts that disprove popular opinion and so do what's right rather than what's popular.
Peter Ward said:
This is just typical of Brake quoted in the paper....
If 44% of kids have nearly been hit (whatever that means in a scientific context I have no idea!), then it's probably because they have appalling road sense. Again educating pedestrians has been sacrificed on the altar of speed limits.
Brake said:
A Brake survey of more than 1400 Scottish children showed 44 per cent had been hit or nearly hit by a vehicle while walking, 49 per cent believed the roads around their school are dangerous and 51 per cent were in fear of being knocked down.
I would have thought BRAKE's time would have been better spent teaching the kids that ALL 100% of roads are extremely dangerous places to be and that they are NOT playing fields, which is what many children seem to think they are. If 44% of kids have nearly been hit (whatever that means in a scientific context I have no idea!), then it's probably because they have appalling road sense. Again educating pedestrians has been sacrificed on the altar of speed limits.
Our local free paper ran this on the front cover this week so it could be national?
To sum up (I can't be arsed finding and linking to the thread about it) the article is quoting a father who's drunken (3 times the limit) 15 year old daughter was killed crossing a road at 1130pm by a lad driving at 57 in a 30. He and Brake are calling for 20 limits in residential areas. The headline reads: "Slow down for the sake of Natalie" or some other such emotional gush.
The council (NB not ScamPrats) paid for a speed camera to be placed at the spot and even though it points the opposite way to the direction the lunatic was travelling, I'm sure it does a good job
Brake are running a national helpline too so you can nominate a road near you.
To sum up (I can't be arsed finding and linking to the thread about it) the article is quoting a father who's drunken (3 times the limit) 15 year old daughter was killed crossing a road at 1130pm by a lad driving at 57 in a 30. He and Brake are calling for 20 limits in residential areas. The headline reads: "Slow down for the sake of Natalie" or some other such emotional gush.
The council (NB not ScamPrats) paid for a speed camera to be placed at the spot and even though it points the opposite way to the direction the lunatic was travelling, I'm sure it does a good job
Brake are running a national helpline too so you can nominate a road near you.
We have the same thing around my way. Some guy in a diabetic coma managed to come off the M4, negotiate 3 roundabouts, and then overtake several cars on a single carriage way road, thinking he was still on the motorway. It killed some poor sod, in the head on collision, but we now have a camera to save us from this ever happening again.
Fer said:
We have the same thing around my way. Some guy in a diabetic coma managed to come off the M4, negotiate 3 roundabouts, and then overtake several cars on a single carriage way road, thinking he was still on the motorway. It killed some poor sod, in the head on collision, but we now have a camera to save us from this ever happening again.
That is just brilliant!!!
Just how stupid do the 'authorities' think we are? And how long, (if ever!), do you think it'll take them to admit that they're barking up the wrong tree!?!?!?!?
cliffe_mafia said:
Our local free paper ran this on the front cover this week so it could be national?
To sum up (I can't be arsed finding and linking to the thread about it) the article is quoting a father who's drunken (3 times the limit) 15 year old daughter was killed crossing a road at 1130pm by a lad driving at 57 in a 30. He and Brake are calling for 20 limits in residential areas. The headline reads: "Slow down for the sake of Natalie" or some other such emotional gush.
The council (NB not ScamPrats) paid for a speed camera to be placed at the spot and even though it points the opposite way to the direction the lunatic was travelling, I'm sure it does a good job
Brake are running a national helpline too so you can nominate a road near you.
Um, you've spelt her name wrong. They spell it 'Natalee' nowadays. I spotted this in the Bury Times (can't find a link) this week.To sum up (I can't be arsed finding and linking to the thread about it) the article is quoting a father who's drunken (3 times the limit) 15 year old daughter was killed crossing a road at 1130pm by a lad driving at 57 in a 30. He and Brake are calling for 20 limits in residential areas. The headline reads: "Slow down for the sake of Natalie" or some other such emotional gush.
The council (NB not ScamPrats) paid for a speed camera to be placed at the spot and even though it points the opposite way to the direction the lunatic was travelling, I'm sure it does a good job
Brake are running a national helpline too so you can nominate a road near you.
The girl wasn't crossing the road, nor was she 3 times the legal limit. She was 'larking about' and ran out into the road then darted back, with a blood alcohol level around 1.5 times the legal drink live limit after drinking Vodka. She was 15 years old and this happened at 10:45PM on a friday night, as you say. Don't take my comments the wrong way
- it boils my urine too.Had she not stepped out, we wouldn't be typing this now
. For the parents to blame this death on speed, when in my opinion the issues responsible lie closer to home, is monstrous. Incidentally, from online council minutes Bury Council paid £50k towards this particular camera (ie the housing) as agreed by councillors at the Radcliffe Area Board. At another meeting of this board, a councillor said that a digital camera was being installed so that traffic speeds both ways could be momitored... They're not the brightest lamps in the street, some of these councillors
.This isn't meant as a personal attack, though it possibly reads that way
. These sorts of people ('victims' of speed), this sort of campaign, drives me potty too.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff