Slicks on the road....

[tvrolet]

I did ask this quite a while back, but no real 'official' answers came of it. Lets say a friend of mine wanted to check the setup of a car on slicks, and was doing so on HM's highway. If my friend did get stopped (it's a fair cop officer ) what's the actual offence and penanlty?

Is this just the same as being stopped with 4 baldy tyres? Or not quite as bad bearing in mind slicks do have 'tread depth' indicators, and these have well over the legal minimum of 'meat'....just no tread. Or is it even worse that 4 baldys, as they're not even e-marked as road tyres?

So, excluding the option of cut slicks, moulded treaded 'slicks' etc. that my friend doesn't have in his garage; is it endorsable to be caught with bona fide slicks, and what would be the hit on the old bank balance on the off chance he might get nabbed?

[biglepton]

4 x baldy tyres at fine plus 3 points each, plus 6 points for no insurance as it's invalid on slick, not for road, non-emarked tyres? That'd be 18 points then, possibly!

That'd be my guess unless you got a very nice copper indeed!

[GreenV8S]

I reckon it's got to be worth a gamble. Worst you're likely to face is three points and £2500. Per tyre.

that!

http://www.motortrades.co.uk/cars/tyres/

Edited by GreenV8S on Saturday 10th November 21:01

[Mattt]

Much cheaper (long term) to go to a track, or fit road legal semi-slicks.

[tvrolet]

OK, point taken...too much of a gamble for my pal to take. He could, of course, go to a track...and indeed that's where they'll be used. It just would have been more convenient to set things up/adjust in the garage - go for a wee spin - reset/re-check etc - repeat etc.

[Mattt]

tvrolet said:

set things up/adjust in the garage - go for a wee spin - reset/re-check etc - repeat etc.

Open pit lane day then?

[GreenV8S]

You're never (I hope!) going to push it hard enough on the road to get any meaningful handling info on the slick setup, so there doesn't seem much point trying to 'test' it on the road. That's strictly against the law anyway, even setting aside the huge penalties you could be facing for the illegal tyres. You can do a static geometry setup in the garage, but to sort the handling out you need to get it into its home environment on the track.

[aw51 121565]

If one is charged with several offences on the road at one time, one only gets the points for the 'biggest scoring' offence but fined for all.

I'd expect just 3 points but a fair old fine...


I am happy to be corected on this .

[Mattt]

aw51 121565 said:

If one is charged with several offences on the road at one time, one only gets the points for the 'biggest scoring' offence but fined for all.

I'd expect just 3 points but a fair old fine...


I am happy to be corected on this .

Don't think that's correct at all.

[GreenV8S]

Mattt said:

aw51 121565 said:

If one is charged with several offences on the road at one time, one only gets the points for the 'biggest scoring' offence but fined for all.

I'd expect just 3 points but a fair old fine...


I am happy to be corected on this .

Don't think that's correct at all.

Me neither.

[tigger1]

GreenV8S said:

Mattt said:

aw51 121565 said:

If one is charged with several offences on the road at one time, one only gets the points for the 'biggest scoring' offence but fined for all.

I'd expect just 3 points but a fair old fine...


I am happy to be corected on this .

Don't think that's correct at all.

Me neither.

+1..Load of bollards.

Slicks = not legal on the road - due to their inability to shift water.

Edited by tigger1 on Sunday 11th November 10:35

[jwo]

each offence would be treated separately, with each set of points stacking up, thus 18pts or so!

[freddytin]

If the " car " was clearly not a road vehicle and was purely a racing machine, i.e. Kart or similar, then would the same punishment apply ?

[Silent1]

Who decides where a treaded tyre becomes a slick in the eyes of the law?

[herewego]

Surely the PH view on this should be the same as for speeding. i.e. if no one was killed then there was no victim and therefore there should be no offence and even if there is an offence it shouldn't be enforced. I bet there are no statistics for death by slicks.

[Sheriff JWPepper]

herewego said:

Surely the PH view on this should be the same as for speeding. i.e. if no one was killed then there was no victim and therefore there should be no offence and even if there is an offence it shouldn't be enforced. I bet there are no statistics for death by slicks.

I think the PHeaders want the bald tyre brigade strung up and the speeders unmolested.

[10 Pence Short]

As far as I'm aware magistrate guidelines are to endorse for the most serious offence in a group of charges brought at the same time. Therefore it's very possible to get 3 points for 3 bald tyres and fined £100 for each.

[10 Pence Short]

Taken from the Magistrates Guidelines.

[GreenV8S]

Silent1 said:

Who decides where a treaded tyre becomes a slick in the eyes of the law?

It has to meet the requirements for tread coverage/depth. If not, it's illegal. (There will probably be an issue with the lack of BS type approval, but IMO the total lack of tread would be decisive anyway.)

[GreenV8S]

10 Pence Short said:

As far as I'm aware magistrate guidelines are to endorse for the most serious offence in a group of charges brought at the same time. Therefore it's very possible to get 3 points for 3 bald tyres and fined £100 for each.

Isn't that more to do with people who commit multiple offences, some very serious and some trivial? Rather than multiple instances of the same offence. If it worked as you suggested then there would be no point (sorry) defining the penalty per tyre.