What offence have I commited?
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I got stopped this morning by the police for drivng round a traffic calming measure. I think it's technicaly a half chicane. Its newly installed and has being causing some tailbacks. I got frustrated this moring and drove onto the field adjacent to it and drove round the chicane and back on to the road. Unfourtunately a police car was coming the other way and saw my manouvere.
The officer gave me a severe ticking off but let me go on my way. While this was going on I was racking my brain trying to think what they could charge me with?
The officer gave me a severe ticking off but let me go on my way. While this was going on I was racking my brain trying to think what they could charge me with?
plasticpig said:
I got frustrated this morning and drove onto the field adjacent to it and drove round the chicane and back on to the road.
Driving on footways, bridleways, restricted byways, common land or moorland not forming part of a road ?Section 34 Road Traffic Act 1988
The section 34 thing looks to be it. I was told I had comitted an offence but didnt catch what the offence was. Since they let me off I wont worry about the penalty. I very much doubt I could be done for dangerous driving I am very familliar with driving off road and I dont belive my standard of driving was incompetent. I even indicated my intention to rejoin the carriageway.
plasticpig said:
The section 34 thing looks to be it. I was told I had comitted an offence but didnt catch what the offence was. Since they let me off I wont worry about the penalty. I very much doubt I could be done for dangerous driving I am very familliar with driving off road and I dont belive my standard of driving was incompetent. I even indicated my intention to rejoin the carriageway.
In your opinion you are competant at driving off road.We've got similar thigns round here on the longer straight roads to try and stop speeding but if anything they cause more accidents. I've seen 3 people end up in a hedge as they clipped the curb by mis judging the chicane.
Mart
somouk said:
plasticpig said:
The section 34 thing looks to be it. I was told I had comitted an offence but didnt catch what the offence was. Since they let me off I wont worry about the penalty. I very much doubt I could be done for dangerous driving I am very familliar with driving off road and I dont belive my standard of driving was incompetent. I even indicated my intention to rejoin the carriageway.
In your opinion you are competant at driving off road.We've got similar thigns round here on the longer straight roads to try and stop speeding but if anything they cause more accidents. I've seen 3 people end up in a hedge as they clipped the curb by mis judging the chicane.
Mart
A police report that you "swerved at speed into a field and then re-joined the carriageway without stopping" (regardless of what you actually did) - well, it doesn't sound great does it?
Edited by tigger1 on Friday 16th November 13:47
plasticpig said:
The officer gave me a severe ticking off but let me go on my way. While this was going on I was racking my brain trying to think what they could charge me with?
Trespassing unless you own the field and I believe there is a charge something like 'driving other than on the highway' or somesuch. Oh and if it had been one of my fields you had been taking a shortcut through, you'd be picking shotgun pellets out of your bootlid! 
SS2. said:
plasticpig said:
I got frustrated this morning and drove onto the field adjacent to it and drove round the chicane and back on to the road.
Driving on footways, bridleways, restricted byways, common land or moorland not forming part of a road ?Section 34 Road Traffic Act 1988
That'll ruin your day & make you even later.
vonhosen said:
SS2. said:
plasticpig said:
I got frustrated this morning and drove onto the field adjacent to it and drove round the chicane and back on to the road.
Driving on footways, bridleways, restricted byways, common land or moorland not forming part of a road ?Section 34 Road Traffic Act 1988
That'll ruin your day & make you even later.
[AJ] said:
vonhosen said:
SS2. said:
plasticpig said:
I got frustrated this morning and drove onto the field adjacent to it and drove round the chicane and back on to the road.
Driving on footways, bridleways, restricted byways, common land or moorland not forming part of a road ?Section 34 Road Traffic Act 1988
That'll ruin your day & make you even later.
Day to day I don't see a lot of evidence of that from the wider general public.
Quinny said:
I for one steer well clear, I'd never go out of my way to obstruct the police,
A good strategy to adopt.Quinny said:
and likewise I'd never go out of my way to help em.
....if it means sticking your neck out to assist in someone else's problem. I wonder if you would help if the problem was yours? 
Many people have this kind of attitude I am afraid, which is why society has many of the problems it currently has. Unless it affects the individual themselves, they keep their heads firmly and well below the parapet!
But you would expect the police to go out of their way if you have an issue that requires their help!
Quinny said:
There are a lot of people like me. Completly indifferent to the police.
We know!Edited by Mg6b on Friday 16th November 23:32
biglepton said:
Trespassing unless you own the field and I believe there is a charge something like 'driving other than on the highway' or somesuch. Oh and if it had been one of my fields you had been taking a shortcut through, you'd be picking shotgun pellets out of your bootlid!
Considered a toll road? vonhosen said:
[AJ] said:
vonhosen said:
Two of those & you'll get the car seized.
That'll ruin your day & make you even later.
And the plod wonder why the nation hate them!That'll ruin your day & make you even later.
vonhosen said:
Day to day I don't see a lot of evidence of that from the wider general public.
We talk about you behind your back. Mg6b said:
Quinny said:
I for one steer well clear, I'd never go out of my way to obstruct the police,
A good strategy to adopt.Mg6b said:
Quinny said:
and likewise I'd never go out of my way to help em.
....if it means sticking your neck out to assist in someone else's problem. I wonder if you would help if the problem was yours? One the first three occasions I was allied with the police but I wasn't doing anything for them.
I'd still try to stop a fleeing thief or robber, it still wouldn't be for the police...
Mg6b said:
Many people have this kind of attitude I am afraid, which is why society has many of the problems it currently has. Unless it affects the individual themselves, they keep their heads firmly and well below the parapet!
Not me. Restricted hight due to wheelchair permitting... 
Mg6b said:
But you would expect the police to go out of their way if you have an issue that requires their help!
Yup. That really is what I pay for, monthly by Direct Debit.Mg6b said:
Quinny said:
There are a lot of people like me. Completly indifferent to the police.
We know!
Mg6b said:
But you would expect the police to go out of their way if you have an issue that requires their help!
if the police are needed to resolve an issue I have called them for they wouldnt be going out of their way?they will be doing the job I and others pay them for?
or dont you get the part about serving the public?
sheesh . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Quinny said:
There are a lot of people like me. Completly indifferent to the police.
and its unfortunate that some BiB seem to think they are on a higher ground than us MOP's thus with head too far up rectum, cannot see what is the general opinion.shame really, I think they will let it slide too far and ultimatly be the blame for riots etc when almost complete loss of faith in the police is the norm.
another point worth mentioning, not only do the crazy speeding laws criminalise innocent people and make real criminals more accepted in the community, cos everyone is a crim nowadays, its also making the police look like a bunch of jokers, there was once a day when if you where a police officer, you where a respected member of the local community, that day is long gone and now most people think quite the opposite.
if some would care to look out of their closed circle of friends, they would see the same.
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