I’m sorry, but we need speed cameras
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Well this guy thinks we do, you can leave comments..........
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As allways you can interpret data any way you like.
What is obvious from the graph showing the reduction of road deaths is this.
Up to 1994 there was a very dramatic yearly reduction in deaths.
Whilst we may have a generally low figure the figures don't actually prove that speed cameras work.
In fact it proves that since cameras started the downward trend has actually stopped and there has been no further improvement.
Now this may just actually prove that we have reached our statistical plateu in that with x amount of vehicles we are going to have an average of x deaths simply as a matter of averages.
maybe we can't improve the figures any more.
I disagree.
I think that the reemergence of traffic police and the reduction of cameras will see the deaths start to fall again as we then weed out the telephone users and drunken drivers again. The last two years not shown on the graph have actually seen a slight rise in deaths.
What is obvious from the graph showing the reduction of road deaths is this.
Up to 1994 there was a very dramatic yearly reduction in deaths.
Whilst we may have a generally low figure the figures don't actually prove that speed cameras work.
In fact it proves that since cameras started the downward trend has actually stopped and there has been no further improvement.
Now this may just actually prove that we have reached our statistical plateu in that with x amount of vehicles we are going to have an average of x deaths simply as a matter of averages.
maybe we can't improve the figures any more.
I disagree.
I think that the reemergence of traffic police and the reduction of cameras will see the deaths start to fall again as we then weed out the telephone users and drunken drivers again. The last two years not shown on the graph have actually seen a slight rise in deaths.
I put this...most replies seem not to be in favour of his comments.
"I'm, frankly, gobsmacked. with all the information out there, with all the figures you still believe cameras are working?! In 9 years I've had 9 points never more than 3 at any one time, has it modified my driving? not one bit, the only thing that makes me slow down is the price of fuel these days.
Cameras have been part of our lives for years now, millions have been caught and millions fined, that in itself tells me they don't work. You ask for alternatives, so here goes.
Hypothecation has ended so it is unlikely cameras will be replaced once damaged and unlikely new ones erected so, hopefully local councils will:-
Seriously look at danger spots and make them less dangerous (they won't be able to erect a camera and forget it now) I can think of several areas where I live that have claimed lives that need a simple roundabout not a camera.
Improve driver education and bring back the green cross code for children.
The Government should reassess their removal of traffic police from our roads which has had a drastic effect on discipline.
Invest in road improvements.
Use TV and the media to reintroduce driver information ads.
Reappraise the 'target requirements' for driving schools and stop pressurising them to qualify unsuitable drivers.
Work with Councils to improve congestion, this isn't rocket science and simply organising traffic light sequencing and road works will go a long way to help. This will alleviate stress and impatience which in turn will help reduce bad driving"
"I'm, frankly, gobsmacked. with all the information out there, with all the figures you still believe cameras are working?! In 9 years I've had 9 points never more than 3 at any one time, has it modified my driving? not one bit, the only thing that makes me slow down is the price of fuel these days.
Cameras have been part of our lives for years now, millions have been caught and millions fined, that in itself tells me they don't work. You ask for alternatives, so here goes.
Hypothecation has ended so it is unlikely cameras will be replaced once damaged and unlikely new ones erected so, hopefully local councils will:-
Seriously look at danger spots and make them less dangerous (they won't be able to erect a camera and forget it now) I can think of several areas where I live that have claimed lives that need a simple roundabout not a camera.
Improve driver education and bring back the green cross code for children.
The Government should reassess their removal of traffic police from our roads which has had a drastic effect on discipline.
Invest in road improvements.
Use TV and the media to reintroduce driver information ads.
Reappraise the 'target requirements' for driving schools and stop pressurising them to qualify unsuitable drivers.
Work with Councils to improve congestion, this isn't rocket science and simply organising traffic light sequencing and road works will go a long way to help. This will alleviate stress and impatience which in turn will help reduce bad driving"
mark69sheer said:
As allways you can interpret data any way you like.
What is obvious from the graph showing the reduction of road deaths is this.
Up to 1994 there was a very dramatic yearly reduction in deaths.
Whilst we may have a generally low figure the figures don't actually prove that speed cameras work.
In fact it proves that since cameras started the downward trend has actually stopped and there has been no further improvement.
Now this may just actually prove that we have reached our statistical plateu in that with x amount of vehicles we are going to have an average of x deaths simply as a matter of averages.
maybe we can't improve the figures any more.
I disagree.
I think that the reemergence of traffic police and the reduction of cameras will see the deaths start to fall again as we then weed out the telephone users and drunken drivers again. The last two years not shown on the graph have actually seen a slight rise in deaths.
Let me think did Labour win an election about ten years ago, so labour win more people die, looks like a sound equation to me.What is obvious from the graph showing the reduction of road deaths is this.
Up to 1994 there was a very dramatic yearly reduction in deaths.
Whilst we may have a generally low figure the figures don't actually prove that speed cameras work.
In fact it proves that since cameras started the downward trend has actually stopped and there has been no further improvement.
Now this may just actually prove that we have reached our statistical plateu in that with x amount of vehicles we are going to have an average of x deaths simply as a matter of averages.
maybe we can't improve the figures any more.
I disagree.
I think that the reemergence of traffic police and the reduction of cameras will see the deaths start to fall again as we then weed out the telephone users and drunken drivers again. The last two years not shown on the graph have actually seen a slight rise in deaths.
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