Out of bounds?
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brigadier

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21 posts

270 months

Saturday 5th July 2003
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I followed a South Yorkshire Police motorcyclist along the M1 yesterday. He travelled past the usual exit at which South Yorkshire patrols turn off and went on towards Wakefield and Leeds.

What’s the situation with regard to police authority outside their particular county boundary.

1. Let’s say for instance you were speeding on his patch but he couldn't manage to pull you over until you passed into the next county – can he still stop you?

2. If he strayed over the county line and caught someone speeding in that county, is he allowed to take action.

Cheers
brigadier

loaf

850 posts

281 months

Saturday 5th July 2003
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brigadier said:
I followed a South Yorkshire Police motorcyclist along the M1 yesterday. He travelled past the usual exit at which South Yorkshire patrols turn off and went on towards Wakefield and Leeds.

What’s the situation with regard to police authority outside their particular county boundary.

1. Let’s say for instance you were speeding on his patch but he couldn't manage to pull you over until you passed into the next county – can he still stop you?

2. If he strayed over the county line and caught someone speeding in that county, is he allowed to take action.

Cheers
brigadier


1. IIRC if a police officer has cause to stop/arrest you then he can chase you as far as he needs to. He may need to get authorisation from a senior officer and let the control room of the force whose area he's entering know, but there's no concept of jurisdiction ending at the county boundary, like in the USA.

2. Not sure but I think he can stop you - as long as he is in uniform and the vehicle he's in has the appropriate warning equipment.

tonyrec

3,984 posts

275 months

Sunday 6th July 2003
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Yes he can stop you, no problem there.

The big difference is that if hes outside his own Force area and he stops you for speeding then you wont be given the option of a Ticket. He will report you and off to Court you go.

The only time it causes problems going outside your particular Force area is when you are carrying Firearms........then its a big no no, unless your Control room has authorised it first and the County Force are also aware.

madcop

6,649 posts

283 months

Sunday 6th July 2003
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A constable has the powers of a constable throughout England and Wales. Scotland has different law and the durisdiction of Police changes. It does not however stop English police stopping someone that committed an offence in England, following and crossing the border into Scotland and reporting them for the offence in Scotland if the border has been crossed.

There are no boundaries for stopping vehicles as there are in the USA. If an offence continues over a force boundary into another force area, the decision to stop and deal will not alter the officers choice to do so because of boundary crossing. He will have to decide though on which court the defendant will appear for the offence. This will either be a local one to his own force or a court in the next county which may be inconvenient for him.

anonymous-user

74 months

Monday 7th July 2003
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Much fairer system in Hazzard County where if you can outrun Sheriff Roscoe P Coltrane and make it across the county line you're home free.

Yee Haa.

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Monday 7th July 2003
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unrepentant said:
Much fairer system in Hazzard County where if you can outrun Sheriff Roscoe P Coltrane and make it across the county line you're home free.
Yee Haa.


Every night I go home on the M23.

Every night I hope the 'bridge is out'...

It never is. ;-)

YeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaa.

miniman

28,932 posts

282 months

Monday 7th July 2003
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bandit said:
God damn that's a Texas County Mountie. What's he doing in Arkansas? Well, let's see what he's got under the hood...

... Bye bye baby!

toad_oftoadhall

936 posts

271 months

Monday 7th July 2003
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miniman said:

bandit said:
God damn that's a Texas County Mountie. What's he doing in Arkansas? Well, let's see what he's got under the hood...

... Bye bye baby!



"Say bye bye to the nice officer..."