If I get pulled for no road tax, worst that can happen?
If I get pulled for no road tax, worst that can happen?
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andmole

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1,594 posts

242 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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I have just bought a bargain barge volvo estate, and since I don't have any part of the V5, I can't tax it until I get the V5 through the post. Trouble is I could really do with using it tomorrow, so what is the worst that could happen if I get pulled for having no road tax? The vehicle is insured and has a current MOT, but was last taxed up to the end of july.

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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andmole said:
I have just bought a bargain barge volvo estate, and since I don't have any part of the V5, I can't tax it until I get the V5 through the post. Trouble is I could really do with using it tomorrow, so what is the worst that could happen if I get pulled for having no road tax? The vehicle is insured and has a current MOT, but was last taxed up to the end of july.
Crushed? - Streaky

wrinx

680 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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I think the usual response would be to make you pay all the duty owed since it was last taxed.

wrinx

CmdrBond

709 posts

230 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Under the devolved powers given to the Police by the DVLA - car can be seized and removed at the roadside. To get it back you have to pay for valid Tax, removal fee approx £120, storage fee if collected withing 24hrs approx £60 and every 24hrs period after it raises approx £15, attend a police station with all your documents including the new tax disc, travel out to the garage (the one we use in Nottinghamshire is at least 10 miles out of the city centre - we only accept document checks at the city centre police station).

If the car is not claimed within a set period, it is then either sent to auction or crushed

andmole

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1,594 posts

242 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Just ing wonderful, DVLA have just told me that I am not going to get the logbook until the new year, and we need to use the vehicle over christmas, or we are not going to get to see family.

justamin

189 posts

237 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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You could always put in the tax disc (valid) for another vehicle - Pikeys have been getting away with it for years!! silly

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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I could be wrong but I was under the impression there was a form you could fill in at the post office for when you don't have a V5 (i.e. the DVLA lose it etc.. or the previous owner doesn't fill it in..) - Pretty sure I had to do this years ago, don't know if you still can do it, but may be worth asking?

davido140

9,617 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Jasandjules said:
I could be wrong but I was under the impression there was a form you could fill in at the post office for when you don't have a V5 (i.e. the DVLA lose it etc.. or the previous owner doesn't fill it in..) - Pretty sure I had to do this years ago, don't know if you still can do it, but may be worth asking?
Yup, you dont need to logbook/v5 to tax a vehicle, just MOT and Insurance and maybe that little "new owner slip"

You cant do it online, but you can go into a post office,

I was enlightened to this fact by a helpful bobbie, who proceeded to slap me with an £80 fine, fair enough I suppose, I could have had the car siezed or crushed.




wrinx

680 posts

271 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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justamin said:
You could always put in the tax disc (valid) for another vehicle - Pikeys have been getting away with it for years!! silly
Not a good idea, this is actually worse as it's fraud.

wrinx

jimlad71

66 posts

237 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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as Davido140 said, you just need the little slip from the log book.
I had a girl in my office in exactly the same situation this week, no log book but needed to tax the car.

All they do at the post office is scan the bar code on the slip and will then give you the tax disc


HTH

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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andmole said:
since I don't have any part of the V5
so the new keepers slip bit isnt in the OP's sweaty mitt. i think you can do it with an application for a duplicate V5 at the post office. convincing the staff these forms still exist isnt always that easy though.

Do0Bs

227 posts

228 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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All you need mate is that little tear out bit from the v5, you should of got this when you picked the car up, or the automatic renewal thing they send through the post, the previous owner should have that

Bought a car back in August and im still waiting from the v5. Anyone else still waiting?

Edited by Do0Bs on Thursday 13th December 21:10

andmole

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Thursday 13th December 2007
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Do0Bs said:
All you need mate is that little tear out bit from the v5, you should of got this when picked the car up, or the automatic renewal thing they send through the post, the previous owner should have that
Sorry, I have none of those things, (don't worry, I have checked out the vehicle and I'm convinced that it's kosher, and there is a reasonable explanation for the lack of documentation). I have filled in a V62, obtained from the post office, it's just that DVLA say that it's going to take far too long to get the V5. I should know how to get a V5 this way, me and the missus used to run a sub postoffice that issued tax discs. If there was a V11 reminder it would no longer be valid because it would be out of date.

Hoolio

1,184 posts

252 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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andmole said:
Just ing wonderful, DVLA have just told me that I am not going to get the logbook until the new year, and we need to use the vehicle over christmas, or we are not going to get to see family.
Every cloud... hehe

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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andmole said:
Do0Bs said:
All you need mate is that little tear out bit from the v5, you should of got this when picked the car up, or the automatic renewal thing they send through the post, the previous owner should have that
Sorry, I have none of those things, (don't worry, I have checked out the vehicle and I'm convinced that it's kosher, and there is a reasonable explanation for the lack of documentation). I have filled in a V62, obtained from the post office, it's just that DVLA say that it's going to take far too long to get the V5. I should know how to get a V5 this way, me and the missus used to run a sub postoffice that issued tax discs. If there was a V11 reminder it would no longer be valid because it would be out of date.
you should be able to get a taxdisc using a V62, ive done it in the past.

peterguk

2,622 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Jasandjules said:
I could be wrong but I was under the impression there was a form you could fill in at the post office for when you don't have a V5 (i.e. the DVLA lose it etc.. or the previous owner doesn't fill it in..) - Pretty sure I had to do this years ago, don't know if you still can do it, but may be worth asking?
Correct! Taxed a car yesterday at the Post Office. Just bought it. MOT, Insurance and dosh.

andmole

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1,594 posts

242 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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Hooli said:
andmole said:
Do0Bs said:
All you need mate is that little tear out bit from the v5, you should of got this when picked the car up, or the automatic renewal thing they send through the post, the previous owner should have that
Sorry, I have none of those things, (don't worry, I have checked out the vehicle and I'm convinced that it's kosher, and there is a reasonable explanation for the lack of documentation). I have filled in a V62, obtained from the post office, it's just that DVLA say that it's going to take far too long to get the V5. I should know how to get a V5 this way, me and the missus used to run a sub postoffice that issued tax discs. If there was a V11 reminder it would no longer be valid because it would be out of date.
you should be able to get a taxdisc using a V62, ive done it in the past.
Yes, you could do it in the past, but you can't do it anymore, rules changed before we left the postoffice, now you have to have either a reminder(V11), or new owners slip(V5/2 I think) and a V10, or a full V5 and a V10.

andmole

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1,594 posts

242 months

Thursday 13th December 2007
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peterguk said:
Jasandjules said:
I could be wrong but I was under the impression there was a form you could fill in at the post office for when you don't have a V5 (i.e. the DVLA lose it etc.. or the previous owner doesn't fill it in..) - Pretty sure I had to do this years ago, don't know if you still can do it, but may be worth asking?
Correct! Taxed a car yesterday at the Post Office. Just bought it. MOT, Insurance and dosh.
Presumably you had the new owners slip(V5/2) from the registration document(V5), which is what I don't have.

trick3000tt

71 posts

245 months

Friday 14th December 2007
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Hooli said:
so the new keepers slip bit isnt in the OP's sweaty mitt. i think you can do it with an application for a duplicate V5 at the post office. convincing the staff these forms still exist isnt always that easy though.
You can download a .pdf of that form from the DVLA website

7db

6,060 posts

261 months

Friday 14th December 2007
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streaky said:
andmole said:
I have just bought a bargain barge volvo estate, and since I don't have any part of the V5, I can't tax it until I get the V5 through the post. Trouble is I could really do with using it tomorrow, so what is the worst that could happen if I get pulled for having no road tax? The vehicle is insured and has a current MOT, but was last taxed up to the end of july.
Crushed? - Streaky
...and the car?