The Christmas speeding campaign seems to have started.
Discussion
ZR1cliff said:
Its good to see the Police working hard on the lead up to Christmas,they are on the ball in the Basingstoke area with their speed traps,even hitting some of the lesser side roads they never normally seem to target.
Well Done to them.
I guess they need to get their Christmas Bonuses as the Govt have reneged on the pay deal.Well Done to them.
Would be nicer if they concentrated on uninsured and drunk drivers though.
ZR1cliff said:
FishFace said:
having to pay for your fuel bill! Bet it sounds good though. 
I love the sound of a multi cam V engine.
Edited by black1 on Friday 14th December 08:44
Edited by black1 on Friday 14th December 08:49
ZR1cliff said:
Its good to see the Police working hard on the lead up to Christmas,they are on the ball in the Basingstoke area with their speed traps,even hitting some of the lesser side roads they never normally seem to target.
Well Done to them.
You will almost certainly find it is to try and get drink drivers ..... in the absence of suspicion of alcohol or an accident you need a moving traffic offence to breath test people so pull them for speed, verbally warn them for that - unless really silly speed - and then stuff a tube in their mouth + get them to blow.Well Done to them.
It is not always easy in a brief conversation to detect drink on someones breath so rather than 'random' pulling of cars with no reason in the hope of getting someone who is obviously drunk you stop them with a reason and just breath test everyone.
I will be doing this later in my area with about 9 officers - and last Christmas despite everyone being pulled for speed we only gave out one speeding ticket (76 in a 30) but got 4 drink drivers. It was explained to everyone we stopped what we were doing but people driving by often think it is just a speed hit.
John57 said:
ZR1cliff said:
Its good to see the Police working hard on the lead up to Christmas,they are on the ball in the Basingstoke area with their speed traps,even hitting some of the lesser side roads they never normally seem to target.
Well Done to them.
You will almost certainly find it is to try and get drink drivers ..... in the absence of suspicion of alcohol or an accident you need a moving traffic offence to breath test people so pull them for speed, verbally warn them for that - unless really silly speed - and then stuff a tube in their mouth + get them to blow.Well Done to them.
It is not always easy in a brief conversation to detect drink on someones breath so rather than 'random' pulling of cars with no reason in the hope of getting someone who is obviously drunk you stop them with a reason and just breath test everyone.
I will be doing this later in my area with about 9 officers - and last Christmas despite everyone being pulled for speed we only gave out one speeding ticket (76 in a 30) but got 4 drink drivers. It was explained to everyone we stopped what we were doing but people driving by often think it is just a speed hit.
As for the muppet doing 76 in a 30,we have a line of trees that runs paralel between the road that runs into our close and a low use estate road,children play around these trees sometimes going near both roads,it never ceases to amaze me how some fools accelerate 'full out' up the estate road without seeing the area around the trees as a possible hazard.
Obviously i wouldnt want to see restrictions on this road as it would inconvenience everyone,but how else can the real '76 in a 30 muppets' be educated.Its a difficult one.
bryan35 said:
AHH, BUT....................
you only need to stop those sticking to the speed limit, as all the sober drivers won't be!
the drunk driver will be doin 28 in a 30, 38 in a 40 etc.
Yep, that's why I got stopped and breathtested many years ago. The guy couldn't honestly believe that I blew a negative when I was only doing 28 in the 30...But you have to wonder what idiot would drive past a marked police car at 2am on a Sunday morning over the speed limit...you only need to stop those sticking to the speed limit, as all the sober drivers won't be!
the drunk driver will be doin 28 in a 30, 38 in a 40 etc.
bryan35 said:
AHH, BUT....................
you only need to stop those sticking to the speed limit, as all the sober drivers won't be!
the drunk driver will be doin 28 in a 30, 38 in a 40 etc.
Which is why I will have two officers further up the road out of sight to spot any other likely cars and radio the details to us so we can stop them anyway you only need to stop those sticking to the speed limit, as all the sober drivers won't be!
the drunk driver will be doin 28 in a 30, 38 in a 40 etc.
John 57--Good police action and should be 52 weeks per year.I am interested in the stops and convictions for Drugged driving.In my area a number of deaths to drivers and passengers over the past few years and increasing,but no publicity or drug drive hit squads.
Why hasnt the detection technology improved.
Why hasnt the detection technology improved.
I'v got an idea, why don't they save money on all that expensive equipment and just stop people that are driving round from one MOT to the next with a light out, usually an head light, It's easy to detect all you have to do is USE YOUR IN EYES.
Chances are if they can't afford a bulb they probably can't afford tyres with tread on and insurance.
IN EYES.Chances are if they can't afford a bulb they probably can't afford tyres with tread on and insurance.
Quinny said:
To be honest, it never ceases to amaze me how fast some people will drive in a 30 limit
The other day I was driving through Oswestry, and a Clio pulled out of a side road about 50 yards ahead of me, and then proceeded to accelerate just as hard as he could.
Difficult to say what speed he got up to as he was pulling away from me so quickly, but I would estimate well over 60 mph.
This on a Saturday afternoon, between shops and side roads, and loads of kids and other folk milling around the area.
It's no wonder average Joe feels aggrieved when he gets caught doing 70 on a NSL road in the middle of nowhere, when dickheads like this, drive like a tt in the middle of a town
I'm sure my town isn't alone with this type of behaviour
your town is not the only one with this sort of thing.The other day I was driving through Oswestry, and a Clio pulled out of a side road about 50 yards ahead of me, and then proceeded to accelerate just as hard as he could.
Difficult to say what speed he got up to as he was pulling away from me so quickly, but I would estimate well over 60 mph.
This on a Saturday afternoon, between shops and side roads, and loads of kids and other folk milling around the area.
It's no wonder average Joe feels aggrieved when he gets caught doing 70 on a NSL road in the middle of nowhere, when dickheads like this, drive like a t
t in the middle of a townI'm sure my town isn't alone with this type of behaviour
Regularly see people driving excessivley fast around here. Often hear ABS or skidding outside my house as drivers try too stop for the junction.
On Tuesday night i was nearly caught out when crossing a road in a housing are whilst walking home. A vehicle that I thought was sufficiantly far away was going far quicker than 30, perhaps 60+. It was easy identified though by the reflective graphics and large word Police on the side.
Problem is that people feel to safe inside their little metal boxes with heaters, comfy seats, sat nav, music blaring out.
They dont realise that a pedestrian doesnt have the same protection.
My solution would be to replace all airbags with a large sharp metal spike set to about 2" away from the drivers face.
I think that would make them drive a little slower, it would help the emergency services also as there would be no one injured in the crash if it happened only deceased. So only the undertaker would need to attend the sceen at his leisure.
Guam said:
I completely agree with the thinking behind this, we have it going on en masse around Grantham right now and they really do need to be nailed. Btw those who know, the morning after effect how long does the booze from the night before stay in your system typically? Chrimbo party coming up Saturday need to know roughly when on Sunday I would be clear to drive anyone know?
Cheers
tom
Been done before, but a quick guide. - don't drink and drive. - not really usefull though!Cheers
tom
depends on what you've eaten/metabolism/body weight mostly for in the short term.
In the long term such as after a nights sleep, it's sort of this............. (for info only)
Legal limit is 35mg/100ml breath. A unit of alcohol (1/2 pint normal strength beer, unit of spirits)has enough alcohol to shove your alcohol level up by about 7.5mg/100ml if it was all ingested and absorbed at once.
Your liver can remove about 7.5mg/100ml an hour, which means you could theoretically drink half a pint of beer ever hour for ever and not get any appreciable alcohol in your system.
Also how much alcohol you have in your bllodstream compared to how much you have in your alimentary canal also affects absorption, but we'll ignor this.
So, start drinking at 8pm, and need to drive at lets say 7am next morning, and assume a pint of beer to be 3 units and not 2 (bud is 2.5 I think)
you need to be 35 or less at 7am, so that's 35 + 11 hours of alcohol removal by your liver = 35 + 11x7.5 = 118 ish. Divide this by 7.5 = about 18 units, which would be 7 pints of bud.
ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM, and may still blow red on a breathaliser. This would reduce by 35/7.5/2.5 = about 2 pints, taking you to 5 pints to be more or less clear by 7am.
Me and my mates operate a '5 pint rule' if needing to to anything the next morning.
Edited by bryan35 on Friday 14th December 15:33
in a nutshell, add 2.5 hours for every pint you have from when you start.
eg start at 7pm, and have 3 pints.
3 x 2.5 = 7.5 hours.
add that to 7pm, ok to drive at 2am.
have 8 pints from 8pm..........
8 x 2.5 = 20 hours
add that to 7pm, ok to drive at 3pm the folloing afternoon.
adds up doesn't it!
eg start at 7pm, and have 3 pints.
3 x 2.5 = 7.5 hours.
add that to 7pm, ok to drive at 2am.
have 8 pints from 8pm..........
8 x 2.5 = 20 hours
add that to 7pm, ok to drive at 3pm the folloing afternoon.
adds up doesn't it!
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