Blunkett Boobies to get pay rise in full
Discussion
-makingI thought you were joking. But then I found it by a google search and you're right! These comments were in the Daily Express version of the story.
Daily Express commenters said:
THIS IS FANTASTIC!
19.12.07, 2:36pm
As much as it makes me laugh to see the Bill getting a piece as everyone of them deserve it. It's unheard of to see cop on cop in this country.
I honestly believe we are on the brink and civil war is just round the corner. Come the revolution, British Citizens please save McBean for me!
SHAME
19.12.07, 1:36pm
Who cares the plod have gone out of their way to offend, and arrest the peaceful majority.They could not care less about trouble makers.Let them suffer, as they have made others suffer. Serves then right for being labours lapdogs.
WHAT DO WE EXPECT IN THE UK!
19.12.07, 1:12pm
No one is accountable for their own actions and people like plastic policemen with no powers and therefore no targets to meet are rewarded for doing nothing.
Anyone that has ever seen these numpties in action must surely realise that the government would have been far better of paying neighbourhood watch schemes.
The real question however is do we want 100 numpties with no powers and no idea or 80 real policemen for the same price.
The only reason the government choose the numpties is that with no power of arrest they have no fear of numpties actually fighting crime and trying to lock up villians, otherwhise the prison overcrowding would be worse.
Sack the numpties employ real policemen and outsource our prison service plenty of third world hell holes are willing to squeeze a few more in, and real prisons might even be a deterrent!
Why do we suppose organised crime in the UK has been taken over by eastern block scum, they live far better in our prisons than their own homes so where is the deterrent?
NO SUPRIZE
19.12.07, 12:02pm
There is no suprize here at all - the majority of the PSCO types are p.c. "oddities" despite the H.O ' spolice and enforcements there are still a few REAL police Officers (no Seniors) in various forces.
To suit Labourites they have to go and/or be out numbered - just watch - shortly they will do away with teh PCSO types - who will become PROPER police Officers and swamp the various forces with the "types" wanted by the labourites - REAL police Offices will be so out numbered they will just wither away and disapear.
Dont believe me just wait and watch the activites of SMITHS succesor (surely she cant last for long)!!
So not that much sympathy. Yes ok it's the Express, but even so we're talking about upstanding members of the community who are complaining at lack of police presence and offensive police behaviour on the one hand, and ridiculing unaccountable PCSOs on the other. Not a good basis for sound consensus policing of commonly agreed laws.19.12.07, 2:36pm
As much as it makes me laugh to see the Bill getting a piece as everyone of them deserve it. It's unheard of to see cop on cop in this country.
I honestly believe we are on the brink and civil war is just round the corner. Come the revolution, British Citizens please save McBean for me!
SHAME
19.12.07, 1:36pm
Who cares the plod have gone out of their way to offend, and arrest the peaceful majority.They could not care less about trouble makers.Let them suffer, as they have made others suffer. Serves then right for being labours lapdogs.
WHAT DO WE EXPECT IN THE UK!
19.12.07, 1:12pm
No one is accountable for their own actions and people like plastic policemen with no powers and therefore no targets to meet are rewarded for doing nothing.
Anyone that has ever seen these numpties in action must surely realise that the government would have been far better of paying neighbourhood watch schemes.
The real question however is do we want 100 numpties with no powers and no idea or 80 real policemen for the same price.
The only reason the government choose the numpties is that with no power of arrest they have no fear of numpties actually fighting crime and trying to lock up villians, otherwhise the prison overcrowding would be worse.
Sack the numpties employ real policemen and outsource our prison service plenty of third world hell holes are willing to squeeze a few more in, and real prisons might even be a deterrent!
Why do we suppose organised crime in the UK has been taken over by eastern block scum, they live far better in our prisons than their own homes so where is the deterrent?
NO SUPRIZE
19.12.07, 12:02pm
There is no suprize here at all - the majority of the PSCO types are p.c. "oddities" despite the H.O ' spolice and enforcements there are still a few REAL police Officers (no Seniors) in various forces.
To suit Labourites they have to go and/or be out numbered - just watch - shortly they will do away with teh PCSO types - who will become PROPER police Officers and swamp the various forces with the "types" wanted by the labourites - REAL police Offices will be so out numbered they will just wither away and disapear.
Dont believe me just wait and watch the activites of SMITHS succesor (surely she cant last for long)!!
dougc said:
Blunketts what to get payrise??
Deaf Dumb and Blind Police Ossifers, or PCSOs will get the 2.5% pay rise that the real police officers (at least, the English ones) won't get.Makes me feel proud to be British so it does.
I know that Labour hate the military, I didn't realise they hated the police as well, like man, you know, I mean, that spliff they smoked at Uni must have really fekced them up...
Jasandjules said:
dougc said:
Blunketts what to get payrise??
Deaf Dumb and Blind Police Ossifers, or PCSOs will get the 2.5% pay rise that the real police officers (at least, the English ones) won't get.Makes me feel proud to be British so it does.
I know that Labour hate the military, I didn't realise they hated the police as well, like man, you know, I mean, that spliff they smoked at Uni must have really fekced them up...
Divide and conquer. While people are discussing this latest 'news', they are distracted from the next idiotic announcement(s) - the imposition of which will surely drive this country further towards the inevitable implosion.
And so it goes on. A similar thing happened with the Local Government Pension versus the NHS Pension - before Labour meddled (a couple of years ago) they were (I believe) the same with the 'Rule of 85' and so on, but now one pension scheme is much as before yet the other is markedly worse than it was ('Rule of 85' lost for a start). Divide and conquer - while the arguments go on, what else gets introduced?
Most irrational behaviour doing this to the police service, it must be said. Come to think of it, a strange way to deal with people that keep the country running, period.
And so it goes on. A similar thing happened with the Local Government Pension versus the NHS Pension - before Labour meddled (a couple of years ago) they were (I believe) the same with the 'Rule of 85' and so on, but now one pension scheme is much as before yet the other is markedly worse than it was ('Rule of 85' lost for a start). Divide and conquer - while the arguments go on, what else gets introduced?
Most irrational behaviour doing this to the police service, it must be said. Come to think of it, a strange way to deal with people that keep the country running, period.
Tough Shit. The rank and file coppers have allowed the take over of the policing system by politically motivated superiors. Don't tell me that rank and file resistance could'nt have stymied this whole politicisation of our law enforcement agencies.
No, they simply wanted to believe all the bullshit they were being fed by their own bosses. Fair enough, you would, wouldnt you?
Well boys, welcome to reality. Again, tough shit, because regardless of your own employment issues, it's us, the relatively law abiding majority who will feel the worst consequences of this decision.
You could have sorted this out years ago, but comfy pensions and "don't rock the institutional boat" have left you with little credence as a respected law enforcement agency.
If it wasn't for your pensions, I could almost cry.
No, they simply wanted to believe all the bullshit they were being fed by their own bosses. Fair enough, you would, wouldnt you?
Well boys, welcome to reality. Again, tough shit, because regardless of your own employment issues, it's us, the relatively law abiding majority who will feel the worst consequences of this decision.
You could have sorted this out years ago, but comfy pensions and "don't rock the institutional boat" have left you with little credence as a respected law enforcement agency.
If it wasn't for your pensions, I could almost cry.
Edited by hemibum on Wednesday 19th December 22:53
hemibum said:
Tough Shit. The rank and file coppers have allowed the take over of the policing system by politically motivated superiors. Don't tell me that rank and file resistance could'nt have stymied this whole politicisation of our law enforcement agencies.
No, they simply wanted to believe all the bullshit they were being fed by their own bosses. Fair enough, you would, wouldnt you?
Well boys, welcome to reality. Again, tough shit, because regardless of your own employment issues, it's us, the relatively law abiding majority who will feel the worst consequences of this decision.
You could have sorted this out years ago, but comfy pensions and "don't rock the institutinal boat" have left you with little credence as a respected law enforcement agency.
If it wasn't for your pensions, I could almost cry.
The reality is that what ever you think of the service, it only gets by on the good will of the rank & file working in it. If you think things are bad now, if they work to rule & only do what they are obliged to then it will collapse. They don't need to strike for it to happen.No, they simply wanted to believe all the bullshit they were being fed by their own bosses. Fair enough, you would, wouldnt you?
Well boys, welcome to reality. Again, tough shit, because regardless of your own employment issues, it's us, the relatively law abiding majority who will feel the worst consequences of this decision.
You could have sorted this out years ago, but comfy pensions and "don't rock the institutinal boat" have left you with little credence as a respected law enforcement agency.
If it wasn't for your pensions, I could almost cry.
A work force that is demoralised because it feels under valued will not display good will & it will eventually come home to roost.
Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 20th December 06:52
Like every large organisation with senior management driven by outside forces (in this case the government driven by the gutter press and distracted sucking up to big business). Lots of little changes create resentment in the workforce, but then one thing unites them and they say enough is enough.
One question though, if the Police are not allowed to be political, why is the government allowed to interfere with how they do their job?
Get rid of the stataticians and statistics and let the Police get on with their job.
One question though, if the Police are not allowed to be political, why is the government allowed to interfere with how they do their job?
Get rid of the stataticians and statistics and let the Police get on with their job.
rewc said:
Laird said:
HATOs and PCSOs are Labours preferred flavour of police, Netto style. I'm not surprised the country is in a mess
I agree with that. The Government see the Police as a threat and by introducing HATO and PCSO they are attempting to blunt their powers. The entire HATO/PCSO experiment should be scrapped and anyone who ever even thought of being one banished to litter collection/graffiti cleaning for all eternity.
vonhosen said:
hemibum said:
Tough Shit. The rank and file coppers have allowed the take over of the policing system by politically motivated superiors. Don't tell me that rank and file resistance could'nt have stymied this whole politicisation of our law enforcement agencies.
No, they simply wanted to believe all the bullshit they were being fed by their own bosses. Fair enough, you would, wouldnt you?
Well boys, welcome to reality. Again, tough shit, because regardless of your own employment issues, it's us, the relatively law abiding majority who will feel the worst consequences of this decision.
You could have sorted this out years ago, but comfy pensions and "don't rock the institutinal boat" have left you with little credence as a respected law enforcement agency.
If it wasn't for your pensions, I could almost cry.
The reality is that what ever you think of the service, it only gets by on the good will of the rank & file working in it. If you think things are bad now, if they work to rule & only do what they are obliged to then it will collapse. They don't need to strike for it to happen.No, they simply wanted to believe all the bullshit they were being fed by their own bosses. Fair enough, you would, wouldnt you?
Well boys, welcome to reality. Again, tough shit, because regardless of your own employment issues, it's us, the relatively law abiding majority who will feel the worst consequences of this decision.
You could have sorted this out years ago, but comfy pensions and "don't rock the institutinal boat" have left you with little credence as a respected law enforcement agency.
If it wasn't for your pensions, I could almost cry.
A work force that is demoralised because it feels under valued will not display good will & it will eventually come home to roost.
Edited by vonhosen on Thursday 20th December 06:52
Where on earth does that idea come from.?
I agree with VH.
If it comes to the stage where all the goodwill evaporates there really will be problems.
As he says there will be no need for industrial action.
The service will grind to a halt.
Chrispy Porker said:
The idea that the rank and file believe all the 'bullshit' being fed by the bosses makes me laugh.
Where on earth does that idea come from.?
I agree with VH.
If it comes to the stage where all the goodwill evaporates there really will be problems.
As he says there will be no need for industrial action.
The service will grind to a halt.
Well do it then.Where on earth does that idea come from.?
I agree with VH.
If it comes to the stage where all the goodwill evaporates there really will be problems.
As he says there will be no need for industrial action.
The service will grind to a halt.
It's easy for people like me (Joe Public) to have a dig at the Police and I admit I have been guilty of doing it in the past, but you (real Police) will only be taken seriously if you can prove how valuable you are to the public and the Government.
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