ANPR and foriegn plates.
Discussion
What happens when a forign car passes an ANPR machine? My car currently has Isle of Man plates, which as I understand it are not listed on the UK databases, so would it simply show up an error message when I pass? I will be getting the car re-registered at the beginning of Jan, but I just want to know how this works for now...
ANPR fixed cameras and Police vehicles will only alert if the vehicle has a PNC report on in, be it, stolen (the most serious) information (stop check driver/keeper details for whatever reason), removed (i.e. no insurance, licence (Sect 165A)) or some other report in one of the other categories.
Your car is unlikely to be noticed as are the thousands of foriegn registered cars on the British roads. If one of those cars does commit an offence then we the police have the ability to create a police record on the PNC with foriegn plates and we can create a report on the record for just that reason. When this vehicle passes a camera or patrol car then it will flag up.
Long story short, if your vehicle has no reports or markers on the PNC record then the ANPR camera will simply ignore it
Your car is unlikely to be noticed as are the thousands of foriegn registered cars on the British roads. If one of those cars does commit an offence then we the police have the ability to create a police record on the PNC with foriegn plates and we can create a report on the record for just that reason. When this vehicle passes a camera or patrol car then it will flag up.
Long story short, if your vehicle has no reports or markers on the PNC record then the ANPR camera will simply ignore it
I pulled up on a motorway bridge where they were ANPR the vehicles on the motorway below.
I must say, firstly it is a fantastic piece of kit.
I was asked inside so I could see it all working.
It was reading every vehicle, the computers are linked to 3 screens.
Each screen is split in half, top and bottom.
What the camera on the gantry "see's" is displayed on the upper part of the screen, and what the computer "understands" the digets to be is displayed on the lower half of the screen.
I must say, It was reading EVERYTHING !
This was full lanes of cars, 60 + mph
Even the hard to read italics, all the fancy text,
So the next time the BiB pulls you over to say your plate is illegal, fancy letters, spacings, etc, because it is hard to read,
It's not.
These ANPR readers read the lot.
I must say, firstly it is a fantastic piece of kit.
I was asked inside so I could see it all working.
It was reading every vehicle, the computers are linked to 3 screens.
Each screen is split in half, top and bottom.
What the camera on the gantry "see's" is displayed on the upper part of the screen, and what the computer "understands" the digets to be is displayed on the lower half of the screen.
I must say, It was reading EVERYTHING !
This was full lanes of cars, 60 + mph
Even the hard to read italics, all the fancy text,
So the next time the BiB pulls you over to say your plate is illegal, fancy letters, spacings, etc, because it is hard to read,
It's not.
These ANPR readers read the lot.
uk_vette said:
So the next time the BiB pulls you over to say your plate is illegal, fancy letters, spacings, etc, because it is hard to read,
It's not.
It is. ANPR may be good at it. If the number plate does not comply, it can look confusing to the human eye especially if the characters are deformed to make them look like letters when they are numbers and the spacings altered to make up words.It's not.
If the number plate does not comply with the vehicles excise act formula for number plates, it is illegal!
Car number plates are designed so that they are simple to read and are not too complex to remember. This is about identification by all means and not just ANPR.
uk vette said:
These ANPR readers read the lot.
Humans with eyes do not and cannot if number plates are confusing because they have been altered outside the permitted formula!Edited by Mg6b on Wednesday 26th December 12:52
Mg6b said:
uk_vette said:
So the next time the BiB pulls you over to say your plate is illegal, fancy letters, spacings, etc, because it is hard to read,
It's not.
It is. ANPR may be good at it. If the number plate does not comply, it can look confusing to the human eye especially if the characters are deformed to make them look like letters when they are numbers and the spacings altered to make up words.It's not.
If the number plate does not comply with the vehicles excise act formula for number plates, it is illegal!
Car number plates are designed so that they are simple to read and are not too complex to remember. This is about identification by all means and not just ANPR.
uk vette said:
These ANPR readers read the lot.
Humans with eyes do not and cannot if number plates are confusing because they have been altered outside the permitted formula!Edited by Mg6b on Wednesday 26th December 12:52
herewego said:
Mg6b said:
uk_vette said:
So the next time the BiB pulls you over to say your plate is illegal, fancy letters, spacings, etc, because it is hard to read,
It's not.
It is. ANPR may be good at it. If the number plate does not comply, it can look confusing to the human eye especially if the characters are deformed to make them look like letters when they are numbers and the spacings altered to make up words.It's not.
If the number plate does not comply with the vehicles excise act formula for number plates, it is illegal!
Car number plates are designed so that they are simple to read and are not too complex to remember. This is about identification by all means and not just ANPR.
uk vette said:
These ANPR readers read the lot.
Humans with eyes do not and cannot if number plates are confusing because they have been altered outside the permitted formula!Edited by Mg6b on Wednesday 26th December 12:52
Ok, so foreign plates or not, an ANPR machine will not alert if there is nothing to report on the car...
what about speeding tickets? Are those plates a middle finger to speed nazis, or can they still track them? If it is the former, I may be inclined to keep them indefinately!
what about speeding tickets? Are those plates a middle finger to speed nazis, or can they still track them? If it is the former, I may be inclined to keep them indefinately!
Edited by Kozy on Saturday 29th December 21:19
Kozy said:
Ok, so foreign plates or not, an ANPR machine will not alert if there is nothing to report on the car...
what about speeding tickets? Are those plates a middle finger to speed nazis, or can they still track them? If it is the former, I may be inclined to keep them indefinately!
Nope, Foreign plates get away scot free, not worth pusuing them!what about speeding tickets? Are those plates a middle finger to speed nazis, or can they still track them? If it is the former, I may be inclined to keep them indefinately!
Edited by Kozy on Saturday 29th December 21:19
But then again, many of us should not really complain, given then I'm sure many of us have been flashed abroad and heard nothing.
True, I got caught by a couple of mobile speed traps on a banger rally this summer, never heard anything back. One of the other teams was not so fortunate however. They got caught averaging 125mph between toll booths, the driver got an on the spot $750 fine and got banned form driving in France. If they had not been able to pay the fine, the car would have been crushed!
Seems tempting to keep the plates...
Seems tempting to keep the plates...
Kozy said:
If they had not been able to pay the fine, the car would have been crushed!
I suspect that they were told that if they could not pay the fine the car would be impounded, and if after a fixed period they were to fail to pay the fine, the car would be crushed.They don't crush your car if you can't pay the fine on the spot.
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