being stopped at dover customs and getting car taken apart
being stopped at dover customs and getting car taken apart
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K321

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4,127 posts

242 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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i went to hamburg recently to take my friend home as she missed her flight, and i went to germany, then came straight back, when i got to customs, the guys didnt believe my story then proceeded to dismantle the car. i know i look young and after 9 hours of driving i did look the worse for wear but i didnt expect them to literally take the car apart. the thing is, is that my doors now wont shut properly and the bonnet is mis aligned, they took each tyre off stuck it thru x ray machine. they took seats out , carpet, facsia, door panels off, roof lining out, carpet out, they checked the oil tank, checked the water for the windscreen wipers, looked in roof a pillar,, were loooking under the car, but amazingly they didnt even search me...they went thru each and every item in the car and made me feel like a criminal although all i brought back were 3 german biscuits. is this normal and what rights do i have to get some money off them to fix my doors and bonnet?

after 3 hours of searching the car, they found nothing, took my passport off for an hour , made me stand in freezing cold then when they could find nothing they didnt even say sorry, bastards!






Edited by K321 on Saturday 29th December 01:11

DPX

1,027 posts

224 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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had a lot of similar stress with customs , police and immi at dover / calais some of them have a real bad attitude .
it makes me laugh when I see some cars down on the springs just drive through the check , and even bigger smile when i see them at 45mph up the hill out of dover

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

279 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Go back, see where they park, then take their cars to bits...

And chuck every second bit into the harbour....

That'll fix them...

Yes....

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

226 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Did they use a sniffer dog first to give them reason to suspect?

Your story sounds like a nightmare.

Could the same happen to anyone in any car?

only thing I would suggest is not to drive for 9 hrs , not very sensible. You probably looked stoned

Captain Volvo

204 posts

223 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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I saw someone's car getting taken apart one year when I was returning from France - it really is a sight to behold. The customs guys even had the rubber strip off the bonnet's leading edge.

I was in a transit van back in the days when it was all the rage to do booze cruises (mid 90s I think). We were pulled and a customs guy took a few of the 100 cases of beer we had on board out and I'm sure he told me at the time that they're not even required to put them back in again so they could unload the entire van and then just leave it on the floor for us to put back in.

Seems to me they must have some sort of duty of care to put back what they take apart and if they don't do this properly then you must have some sort of comeback - probably not though.

wrinx

680 posts

264 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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I'm pretty sure you can claim for damages to put the car right again.

Someone I know had some items completely destroyed by customs, they produced receipts and were reimbursed.

wrinx

K321

Original Poster:

4,127 posts

242 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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there were no sniffer dogs present

thanks for the info

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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wrinx said:
I'm pretty sure you can claim for damages to put the car right again.
Perhaps they might choose to, but they're under no obligation at all to do that. In fact they aren't even required to put the car back together afterwards. If you're stopped, make sure you're polite because these customs and excise guys have the power to absolutely ruin your day if they want to.

streaky

19,311 posts

273 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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GreenV8S said:
wrinx said:
I'm pretty sure you can claim for damages to put the car right again.
Perhaps they might choose to, but they're under no obligation at all to do that. In fact they aren't even required to put the car back together afterwards. If you're stopped, make sure you're polite because these customs and excise guys have the power to absolutely ruin your day if they want to.
Too true! As I was once informed by a senior Customs official, "We could take the QE2 to pieces and leave the bits for Cunard to put back together!" At Sheerness on one occasion in the '80s I saw a VW Beetle with all five tyres off, the seats and carpets piled up alongside and the petrol tank drained ... and a horrified (and innocent of smuggling) driver wondering what he was going to do to get home smile - Streaky

havoc

32,728 posts

259 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Customs have more powers than the Police, and less responsibility to the public.

Will you get anything out of them? Dunno, not a legal expert, but it's worth trying...

cptsideways

13,834 posts

276 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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A few years back when I was doing regular business trips to Euroland & back I was getting stopped EVERY time. Always the same questions, often a similar response. In the end it became such a laughing joke about me being directed into the rubber glove hall yikes Even if I was with a group & not the driver we'd be directed in every time. I asked why once.

Its a profile thing they are looking for, age of driver, age of car your first verbal response etc. Always helps to back up your story, I often showed receipts from where I'd been that sort of thing, or the boot not full of contabrand if they got suspicious smile It became such a regular thing I actually recognised the regular guys on duty & I'm sure they knew me too. Most of them were fine about it tbh, never had a major problem bar the odd basic under over inside car search.


I'd always suggest to be as polite & forthcoming as possible especially once directed into the bit with the 4 poster ramps yikes

They are under no obligation to put it all back together either & there is no recompense either.


Edited by cptsideways on Saturday 29th December 14:58

Rich 36

13,739 posts

290 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Yep same thing,
being the god natured chap I (was) even lent them a socket Once when they'd lost their own,

Assholes TBH the lot of them


what were the Biscuits though

was it anything with Nazi overtones in title?

wrinx

680 posts

264 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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cptsideways said:
They are under no obligation to put it all back together either & there is no recompense either.
That stinks frown

wrinx

Rich 36

13,739 posts

290 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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K321.... all i brought back were 3 german biscuits. is this normal and what rights do i have to get some money off them to fix my doors and bonnet?

Was it these,
TBH they might raisin eyebrow with customs



Edited by Rich 36 on Saturday 29th December 17:40

DSM2

3,624 posts

224 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Disgraceful behaviour but what else do you expect from this country these days?

Rich 36

13,739 posts

290 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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This is a cracker



No POD in-yah-face

I beat you to it this time

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

279 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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wrinx said:
cptsideways said:
They are under no obligation to put it all back together either & there is no recompense either.
That stinks frown

wrinx
Certainly does...

It's on my list of Things To Complain To My MP About....

But I keep forgetting....

Rich 36

13,739 posts

290 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Do you feel violated still


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

279 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Rich 36 said:
Do you feel violated still

No...just confused





Rich 36

13,739 posts

290 months

Saturday 29th December 2007
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Drawing a parallel between the apparent tired appearence
and biscuits angle

given the canines weren't alerting their interest
(as in my case)
they were suspicious of the confectionery angle
and lack of duty free I expect.

I think he's guilty as sin, and not disclosing the internal cavity search
HMC&E are normally proud to administer