115mph NIP......HELP!
Discussion
I've been a naughty boy and today got pulled with an average speed over 1 mile of 115mph on a deserted stretch of motorway.
I'm expecting the book to be thrown at me so would appreciate any advice on how to limit the damage so to speak.
What's better to take in the long run? Lots of points or a ban?
I'm expecting the book to be thrown at me so would appreciate any advice on how to limit the damage so to speak.
What's better to take in the long run? Lots of points or a ban?
I'd be hugely surprised if you weren't looking at a ban.
A friend was caught doing 110mph on the A1M and as his speed was recorded over set distance and he never clocked the police car, his sentence was far worse than mine, which was a higher speed on a lower limit road.
Firstly, drink and be merry, then hope that one of the mods pops this into SP&TL
Don't worry too much yet, but mentally prepare for a big ban and be 100% truthful for the whole thing.
Was it an unmarked car that caught you or was this a camera van or similar?
Dave!
A friend was caught doing 110mph on the A1M and as his speed was recorded over set distance and he never clocked the police car, his sentence was far worse than mine, which was a higher speed on a lower limit road.
Firstly, drink and be merry, then hope that one of the mods pops this into SP&TL
Don't worry too much yet, but mentally prepare for a big ban and be 100% truthful for the whole thing.
Was it an unmarked car that caught you or was this a camera van or similar?
Dave!
The judge will probably decide on whether you would get points, ban or a fine but you might end up with all three I'm sorry to say.
I would plead guilty at the earliest oppurtunity as the courts aren't big fans of having their time wasted. If they see that you are flippant and not that bothered then the penalty will be greater..
I would plead guilty at the earliest oppurtunity as the courts aren't big fans of having their time wasted. If they see that you are flippant and not that bothered then the penalty will be greater..
Barrister on PH said:
Right.
First of all
www.pepipoo.com is your friend.
Secondly, when you go to Court (assume you're pleading guilty) observe the following golden rules. These WORK, dear fellow.
1. Wear a dark plain suit
2. Wear a plain white shirt, and a plain tie
3. Wear decent shoes. Polish them.
4. No visible tattoos or jewellery. At all. Especially chains or ear rings.
5. Short neat hair. No hair gel.
6. Shave.
7. Absolutely no comedy socks.
8. When you arrive at court, go and find the Clerk of the Court. Tell him or her who you are, and that you've never been to court before and you're nervous and don't know what to do. Be very polite. Remember - these are the gatekeepers to the Magistrates. If you appear to them to be not the normal scrote, they will likely (a) call your case on first so you're not sitting with scum for hours and (b) tell the Magistrate that you seem like a thoroughly nice chap and not the type at all.
9. When answering a question, say, "yes sir" and "no sir." This matters. It might stick in your throat, but it might save your hide.
10. Show remorse. Say how you are ashamed of yourself, and very sorry, and that you appreciate the stupidity of what you did.
11. Bring letters from an employer saying what a thoroughly excellent employee’s you are. If you need your licence for work, this letter should say so.
Years of experience of the Courts taught me that these things, some of which seem as if they SHOULDN’T matter, damn well do. The Magistrates are people, with their own prejudices. By appearing to be not the usual scum seen in Court, you will surprise them, and they WILL be lenient.
First of all
www.pepipoo.com is your friend.
Secondly, when you go to Court (assume you're pleading guilty) observe the following golden rules. These WORK, dear fellow.
1. Wear a dark plain suit
2. Wear a plain white shirt, and a plain tie
3. Wear decent shoes. Polish them.
4. No visible tattoos or jewellery. At all. Especially chains or ear rings.
5. Short neat hair. No hair gel.
6. Shave.
7. Absolutely no comedy socks.
8. When you arrive at court, go and find the Clerk of the Court. Tell him or her who you are, and that you've never been to court before and you're nervous and don't know what to do. Be very polite. Remember - these are the gatekeepers to the Magistrates. If you appear to them to be not the normal scrote, they will likely (a) call your case on first so you're not sitting with scum for hours and (b) tell the Magistrate that you seem like a thoroughly nice chap and not the type at all.
9. When answering a question, say, "yes sir" and "no sir." This matters. It might stick in your throat, but it might save your hide.
10. Show remorse. Say how you are ashamed of yourself, and very sorry, and that you appreciate the stupidity of what you did.
11. Bring letters from an employer saying what a thoroughly excellent employee’s you are. If you need your licence for work, this letter should say so.
Years of experience of the Courts taught me that these things, some of which seem as if they SHOULDN’T matter, damn well do. The Magistrates are people, with their own prejudices. By appearing to be not the usual scum seen in Court, you will surprise them, and they WILL be lenient.
Well this may help in your favour. I was 64mph above the limit and caught by the same system it seems. I was caught a long way away, far enough to struggle to make the car out unless you know exactly where it was infact.
If they were fair and you didn't kick up a fuss or try and give the "My children need shoes" line then you are in a better position than many imo.
I had a nicely worded description from the police officer which was then read out in court and the judge looked on it very favouribly, it meant I only had a short 4 week ban which does virtually bugger all to your insurance compared to anything 60 days and above.
It depends on how long you can live with a ban, if at all, but personally I wouldn't go in with a lawyer if possible, do be prepared for the worst though as if you plan right, you can lessen how much it affects your life.
Dave!
If they were fair and you didn't kick up a fuss or try and give the "My children need shoes" line then you are in a better position than many imo.
I had a nicely worded description from the police officer which was then read out in court and the judge looked on it very favouribly, it meant I only had a short 4 week ban which does virtually bugger all to your insurance compared to anything 60 days and above.
It depends on how long you can live with a ban, if at all, but personally I wouldn't go in with a lawyer if possible, do be prepared for the worst though as if you plan right, you can lessen how much it affects your life.
Dave!
jellison said:
Why would it not be a Ban - 45mph over the limit.
Christ I got 9 months when 22 (along time back) and huge fine for first offence.
Nothing you can do apart from saying nothing Stupid!
You will be banned.
Not everyone is caught in the same circumstances.Christ I got 9 months when 22 (along time back) and huge fine for first offence.
Nothing you can do apart from saying nothing Stupid!
You will be banned.
140mph, 70mph above the limit, £2200 fine and 6 month ban, empty dual carrigeway.
124mph, approaching a corner 64mph above the limit, £500 fine, 28 day ban.
Dave!
MJK 24 said:
Don't fret.
I was pulled in similar circumstances to you in 2003. 123mph and averaging 119mph over a mile.
They too commented that my driving wasn't dangerous, I was just speeding.
3 points and £60. (Sp50)
My goodness, are you in the Masons?!?!?! I was pulled in similar circumstances to you in 2003. 123mph and averaging 119mph over a mile.
They too commented that my driving wasn't dangerous, I was just speeding.
3 points and £60. (Sp50)
Saying that, my neighbour got done at 102 or so on the A12, got a £500 and six points.
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