CPS finds 25000 cases too much agro
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When do the population decide that the Govt is no longer fit for purpose?.
When do the population decide that the Govt is no longer fit for purpose?.
Edited by paranha on Sunday 6th January 12:36
Edited by paranha on Sunday 6th January 12:38
paranha said:
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When do the population decide that the Govt is no longer fit for purpose?.
I decided that sometime in 1997, just waiting for more people to join me and tick a different box on the fecking election form.When do the population decide that the Govt is no longer fit for purpose?.
doesnt surprise me at all. years ago my mg was vandalised to the tune of about £3k body damage. crims was tailed by various people across the road, into a pub, pointed out to bouncers who kept track, handed to plod when plod arrived. result of it? no charges as not in the public interest.
its bo
ocks & the CPS need a huge kick up the arse.
its bo
ocks & the CPS need a huge kick up the arse.Hooli said:
doesnt surprise me at all. years ago my mg was vandalised to the tune of about £3k body damage. crims was tailed by various people across the road, into a pub, pointed out to bouncers who kept track, handed to plod when plod arrived. result of it? no charges as not in the public interest.
its boocks & the CPS need a huge kick up the arse.
Just imagine if you'd been caught at 35 in a 30, now that would be in the public interest (the public being Brake of course) its bo
ocks & the CPS need a huge kick up the arse.FishFace said:
More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".
Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
In the case of thugs, one case is too many.Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
However, it appears that it is far more than one...
FishFace said:
More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".
Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted. Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
andmole said:
FishFace said:
More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".
Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted. Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
andmole said:
FishFace said:
More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".
Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted. Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
It wouldn't surprise me if less go to Court now than pre-1980.
I assume you're not including offences like no insurance, driving otherwise in accordance with license, due care and attention and dangerous here.
I think the main problem with the CPS is that they have a bunch of buffoons running it and in other positions of responsibility.
You'd be hard pressed to find a average rank and file copper with a good word to say about them. Sure, some good prosecutors do slip through the net but too many bad ones get in as well.
And as for traffic cases being a lot of their casework, that may be so, but in my experience, the last time I was at court for a traffic job was back in 2005-ish.
I've always been a fan of a quiet word in the ear rather than going straight to the ticket option.
You'd be hard pressed to find a average rank and file copper with a good word to say about them. Sure, some good prosecutors do slip through the net but too many bad ones get in as well.
And as for traffic cases being a lot of their casework, that may be so, but in my experience, the last time I was at court for a traffic job was back in 2005-ish.
I've always been a fan of a quiet word in the ear rather than going straight to the ticket option.
barbalar said:
I think the main problem with the CPS is that they have a bunch of buffoons running it and in other positions of responsibility.
You'd be hard pressed to find a average rank and file copper with a good word to say about them. Sure, some good prosecutors do slip through the net but too many bad ones get in as well.
And as for traffic cases being a lot of their casework, that may be so, but in my experience, the last time I was at court for a traffic job was back in 2005-ish.
I've always been a fan of a quiet word in the ear rather than going straight to the ticket option.
You'd be hard pressed to find a average rank and file copper with a good word to say about them. Sure, some good prosecutors do slip through the net but too many bad ones get in as well.
And as for traffic cases being a lot of their casework, that may be so, but in my experience, the last time I was at court for a traffic job was back in 2005-ish.
I've always been a fan of a quiet word in the ear rather than going straight to the ticket option.
]We need more BiB like you - Streaky
FishFace said:
andmole said:
FishFace said:
More evidence that the Police are extremely good at getting people to Courts when they overload the CPS, No? Or just more reason to spout lies such as "they need space for motorists".
Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
Perhaps the CPS wouldn't be quite so overloaded if they didn't spend quite so much time persecuting motorists who decide that they want to be treated fairly by the justice system, rather than being shafted into accepting the results produced by equipment that cannot be trusted. Wonder how many cases aren't "thugs" etc that have been dropped.
It wouldn't surprise me if less go to Court now than pre-1980.
I assume you're not including offences like no insurance, driving otherwise in accordance with license, due care and attention and dangerous here.
So.....who's wasting who's time and money, I wonder??
I think the over-riding question is whether or not we have a justice system that is fit for purpose.
When I studied Law, pretty much one of the first things we were told is that Justice must be for the people and run by the people as well as accessible by all.
Unfortunately, the perception is that it hits none of those things, either due to bureaucratic incompentence or other systematic failings.
I don't see things getting any better anytime soon and unless there is a huge overhaul of the way CPS and indeed we, as police, undertake prosecutions, I think we'll be stuck with the huge stagnant mess for some time.
When I studied Law, pretty much one of the first things we were told is that Justice must be for the people and run by the people as well as accessible by all.
Unfortunately, the perception is that it hits none of those things, either due to bureaucratic incompentence or other systematic failings.
I don't see things getting any better anytime soon and unless there is a huge overhaul of the way CPS and indeed we, as police, undertake prosecutions, I think we'll be stuck with the huge stagnant mess for some time.
FishFace said:
How much actual time do you think is spent at Court for speeding / minor road traffic offences? Very very little. Visit your local Magistrates' and have a look at the offences for the cases over the last month. Nearly all will be to do with crime.
It wouldn't surprise me if less go to Court now than pre-1980.
surely your bright enough to see the obvious here?It wouldn't surprise me if less go to Court now than pre-1980.
and just becuase most people dont fight the victimless crimes they have commited by swaying 5 mph over the limit, thus clogging up the courts, doesnt mean its a moral and right thing to be labelled a criminal when muggers, shoplifters and thieves are getting off scot free.
I agree with the other statement that things are going to be a big mess soon, and blinkered posts showing the mentality above confirm this.
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