Essex Traffic and their inability to stop road racing
Essex Traffic and their inability to stop road racing
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Grey Ghost

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4,611 posts

251 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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I have had to pass through Lakeside a couple of times recently at c1:00am or slightly later on my way home from visiting friends. The first time I was surprised to see at least 50 cars parked up all over the roundabout / slip road off of the A13. There were lots of people walking around the cars as well as walking in the road, with several quite the worse for drink and others holding bottles of beer etc. I drove through safely enough whilst wondering what was going on and then saw two complete idiots racing back on the other carriageway with less than a foot between their cars as they raced side by side. I drove down to the exit that takes the road under the train line and went home with no incident apart from receiving a few w@nker signs.... presumably for driving a Porsche.

My second trip along the same stretch of road was not quite as event free. I again noticed 50 or so cars at the top of the slip road but this time there were more people all over the road, again clearly drinking and with more disregard for my car than before. I thought I had managed to drive through slow enough and was just getting onto the main 3 lane carriageway towards the slip road I need to use when several cars decided to chase me and swarm all over me, mainly Sccobies, Evo's and chavved up Vauxhall rubbish. All the drivers were quite clearly wanting to goad a Porsche into a race of some sort and several times I had to brake very hard to avoid contact with one or more of these idiots. I did stop at the bottom of the slip road and waited for a couple of the chav cars to come down but they stopped when I stood in the road and decided to reverse back up to the main carriageway.

I have had several chats with some of the friendlier plod in the area (admitedly not a traffic officer) and they claim there is nothing they can do about it even though they know it is a regular occurence mad Now if they are fully aware it happens why can they not arrive there during the event using a couple of cars to block the potential get way routes and provide each and every car owner with a provider, or better still use their computer records to check on the spot for license, MOT, insurance etc. If they were to use the unmarked 5 series cars they use to tax motorists for sneaking over the limit on the A130 they would be able to arrive in the area without any warning and witness first hand the way these idiots drive with complete disregard to other road users who just happen to want to use the road to get home.

If there is ever a serious incident during one of these gatherings it won't just be me contacting the local press to discuss the inability of the Essex police to deal with the issue as they have freely admitted to me and several others in the area they are fully aware it happens yet never take any action on the idiots using a public road as a race track.

Thoughts from any Traffic Officers well received.......

Funky Teapot

136 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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The police are probably too busy having to police Southend and the industial estates of Basildon to spare any officers to go down. Have you ever seen the amount of chavs who decend on Basildon Macdonals after southend has wound down?

Miffy84

35 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Surely if you report a crime in progress, they have to respond asap? There's gotta be something going on there worth ringing in!

Smithy

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Funky Teapot said:
The police are probably too busy having to police Southend and the industial estates of Basildon to spare any officers to go down. Have you ever seen the amount of chavs who decend on Basildon Macdonals after southend has wound down?
yes

Limited resources and lots to do. Phone in whenever you can and get others to do so also. With time and perseverance you may see results.

Heebeegeetee

30,255 posts

279 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Why not, to a degree, let 'em get on with it? They've got to go somewhere to let off steam.

Busa_Rush

6,930 posts

282 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
No point going to war against motorists who are going to resist and make life difficult for you when there are millions of others who will juust pay up.

These chavs are at the difficult end of the scale, average middle class, middle England Mrs Jones is the easy end of the scale.

wasted years

4,330 posts

240 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Busa_Rush said:
FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
No point going to war against motorists who are going to resist and make life difficult for you when there are millions of others who will juust pay up.

These chavs are at the difficult end of the scale, average middle class, middle England Mrs Jones is the easy end of the scale.
More than one way to skin the proverbial cat. ANPR operation, section 59 warnings, dispersal orders are just some things that can be done.

Jules360

1,949 posts

233 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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wasted years said:
Busa_Rush said:
FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
No point going to war against motorists who are going to resist and make life difficult for you when there are millions of others who will juust pay up.

These chavs are at the difficult end of the scale, average middle class, middle England Mrs Jones is the easy end of the scale.
More than one way to skin the proverbial cat. ANPR operation, section 59 warnings, dispersal orders are just some things that can be done.
But what IS being done? By the sound of it, fcuk all. As stated, probably designated as "too difficult, perhaps dangerous" ... best hide behind a bush all evening catching the submissive middle classes doing 45 in a 40. When will the givernment/police have the balls to stop the above mentioned sort of behaviour ?

paranha

633 posts

273 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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WHEN???????????

School boy

1,006 posts

242 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Also they dont want to start a riot. Police being in the minority then turn into a target.
I do agree 100% however that it is unacceptable annthey should try something. Probably down the old one of not enough police around.

Edited by School boy on Sunday 20th January 21:02

andmole

1,594 posts

242 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
The war is against the ones who are easy to trace, easy to fine, and who don't want to make a fuss. The racers described fit none of these categories and are consequently too much trouble.

Funky Teapot

136 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Busa_Rush said:
FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
No point going to war against motorists who are going to resist and make life difficult for you when there are millions of others who will juust pay up.

These chavs are at the difficult end of the scale, average middle class, middle England Mrs Jones is the easy end of the scale.
repeat after me....

"infamy infamy... they've all got it infamy"

i want an aero

642 posts

237 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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a few well placed stingers would stop them and round them up and take away the cars that are illegal

Funky Teapot

136 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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andmole said:
FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
The war is against the ones who are easy to trace, easy to fine, and who keep making targets of themselves by breaking the law (how hard can it be to drive within the limits these days? I've been driving for 21 years and haven't been done for anything yet.... guess i'm just lucky and it's not my personal responsiblity that's enabled that, just pure luck to not be targetted unfairly by the police wink ) don't want to make a fuss. The racers described fit none of these categories and are consequently too much trouble.
EFA


jondude

2,441 posts

248 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Heebeegeetee said:
Why not, to a degree, let 'em get on with it? They've got to go somewhere to let off steam.
Agree, again to a point. Essex is the heart of chavland, so maybe there is something to the police ( and the residents ) knowing there is an area where many of them stay and play, just harming themselves when it goes wrong.

If they get pushed away, that means more chavs in town centres at these times....more innocent motorists being 'challenged' or run off roads, more accidents, more violence.

I would presume this is unofficial police policy, as Essex has few qualms about putting 'safety' cameras everywhere, so the lack of same on the chav run route is rather perplexing.

Funky Teapot

136 posts

226 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Do the legal cruises at Essex Arena still go ahead?

FishFace

3,790 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th January 2008
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Busa_Rush said:
FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
No point going to war against motorists who are going to resist and make life difficult for you when there are millions of others who will juust pay up.

These chavs are at the difficult end of the scale, average middle class, middle England Mrs Jones is the easy end of the scale.
#
But the evil S.59 easily gets the statistics up bla bla.

Bigdrift

1,566 posts

227 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Heebeegeetee said:
Why not, to a degree, let 'em get on with it? They've got to go somewhere to let off steam.
spot the guardian reader !

draft a few unmarked officers in from surrounding forces and nab the lot of them !

how many have no insurance , tax or mot ?? hit them where it hurts by impounding their precious nova/corsa/civic etc etc and give them a hefty fine to boot


andmole

1,594 posts

242 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Funky Teapot said:
andmole said:
FishFace said:
Seems like evidence it's not quite the 'war on motorists' everyone bangs on about then.
The war is against the ones who are easy to trace, easy to fine, and who keep making targets of themselves by breaking the law (how hard can it be to drive within the limits these days? I've been driving for 21 years and haven't been done for anything yet.... guess i'm just lucky and it's not my personal responsiblity that's enabled that, just pure luck to not be targetted unfairly by the police wink ) don't want to make a fuss. The racers described fit none of these categories and are consequently too much trouble.
EFA
How dare you edit my post in such a manner, it is neither funny nor accurate of my views towards the police. I have had personal experience of the views of a minority of the police towards the motorist and I can assure you and others of your ilk that the perception I expressed in my original post is well founded. If I find myself driving with a police car behind me, (something that happens fairly often as I live within 100 yds of the police station), I will pull over and let them pass, as I cannot take the chance that the one behind me is in the minority that I do not trust. I have been driving for more than 20 years, have driven a wide variety of vehicles up to and including 7.5 tonners, and have a clean licence. Have had/been involved in three accidents, two of which were my fault, (one minor, one major), and I admitted as much. Some limited motorsport experience, (speed events, 5 seasons), so I know enough to know that anyone who pushes the performance/handling/grip envelope of their car on the public road is a prize prat. I fully support ANPR operations to get unlicenced/untaxed/uninsured/un MOT'ed vehicles and drivers off the roads, and even have been known to argue that in certain locations speed cameras have a role to play. So get off my case and get back under your bridge, come out when you are as qualified to speak on these matters as I, and many others of us on here, are.

No swear words were used in the making of this post, the speed of your vehicle may go up as well as down, please note the use of the word minority when referring to the police