Incorrect Signage
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supermono

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7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Who do I write to about signs that are wrong? For example, there's one on the M11/M25(W) sliproad that says "Maximum Speed 30mph"

SM

oldsoak

5,618 posts

233 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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supermono said:
Who do I write to about signs that are wrong? For example, there's one on the M11/M25(W) sliproad that says "Maximum Speed 30mph"

SM
How is it wrong?

Off ramp?...or on?
Permanent sign or temp limit advisory?

supermono

Original Poster:

7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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It's a permanent sign at the off ramp leaving the M11(S)->M25(W)

SM

Fer

7,781 posts

311 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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flemke said:
oldsoak said:
supermono said:
Who do I write to about signs that are wrong? For example, there's one on the M11/M25(W) sliproad that says "Maximum Speed 30mph"

SM
How is it wrong?

Off ramp?...or on?
Permanent sign or temp limit advisory?
Any chance that it's an challenge, rather than a limit?
EFA. biggrin

flemke

23,515 posts

268 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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oldsoak said:
supermono said:
Who do I write to about signs that are wrong? For example, there's one on the M11/M25(W) sliproad that says "Maximum Speed 30mph"

SM
How is it wrong?

Off ramp?...or on?
Permanent sign or temp limit advisory?
Any chance that it's a 'permanent' advisory sign, rather than a limit?

tigger1

8,483 posts

252 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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flemke said:
oldsoak said:
supermono said:
Who do I write to about signs that are wrong? For example, there's one on the M11/M25(W) sliproad that says "Maximum Speed 30mph"

SM
How is it wrong?

Off ramp?...or on?
Permanent sign or temp limit advisory?
Any chance that it's a 'permanent' advisory sign, rather than a limit?
Flemke being quoted before he posted?

That's got to be posting at a rate exceeding the speed limit?

flemke

23,515 posts

268 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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tigger1 said:
flemke said:
oldsoak said:
supermono said:
Who do I write to about signs that are wrong? For example, there's one on the M11/M25(W) sliproad that says "Maximum Speed 30mph"

SM
How is it wrong?

Off ramp?...or on?
Permanent sign or temp limit advisory?
Any chance that it's a 'permanent' advisory sign, rather than a limit?
Flemke being quoted before he posted?

That's got to be posting at a rate exceeding the speed limit?
I first posted without the word "permanent", and then realised that it might seem as though I was making the point that SM had already made, so I changed the post.

They have these signs on other M25 slip roads. Some have the red border that makes them limits, others have the black border that makes them advisory.
The advisories are helpful and have value. The limits are dumbing-down, foolish shite - sometimes one doesn't even have an indication of when the limit goes back to 70, despite the fact that one is expected next to filter into 70 mph motorway traffic.

supermono

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7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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flemke said:
The advisories are helpful and have value.
Not this one. I reckon the maximum speed through that curve is near 100mph. You could get round there at >30mph in a morris minor with two flat tyres...

SM

krallicious

4,312 posts

236 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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supermono said:
flemke said:
The advisories are helpful and have value.
Not this one. I reckon the maximum speed through that curve is near 100mph. You could get round there at >30mph in a morris minor with two flat tyres...

SM
100 might be ott. They put the advisory limit sign there to crub your enjoyment of a fantastic couple of bends, only when conditions are correct etc etc etc

supermono

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7,464 posts

279 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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krallicious said:
100 might be ott. They put the advisory limit sign there to crub your enjoyment of a fantastic couple of bends, only when conditions are correct etc etc etc
From my understanding of those bends, the first bit could be exited at around that speed but the solid lines/hatching/surface changes on the second bit may mean a slight reduction of speed is necessary before the turn in to avoid a bit of drama.

But 30? Honestly...

SM

tvrgit

8,490 posts

283 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Simple

If it's round with a red boundary and a black "30" and nothing else, then it's a regulatory speed limit (provided that there is a Traffic Regulation Order to back it up)

If it isn't, it isn't. If any of the colours are different, it isn't. If there is extra lettering, it isn't. If it's square, oblong, rectangular, triangular or dodacehedral or any shape other than round, it isn't. In those cases it would be advisory only.

tony13579

183 posts

256 months

Monday 21st January 2008
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Back boards are allowed, grey or yellow. (yellow only in street lit areas) you can have a village gateway sign (but not on a motorway )

krallicious

4,312 posts

236 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2008
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supermono said:
krallicious said:
100 might be ott. They put the advisory limit sign there to crub your enjoyment of a fantastic couple of bends, only when conditions are correct etc etc etc
From my understanding of those bends, the first bit could be exited at around that speed but the solid lines/hatching/surface changes on the second bit may mean a slight reduction of speed is necessary before the turn in to avoid a bit of drama.

But 30? Honestly...

SM
I misunderstood the direction of travel. i was thinking M25 W to M11N rolleyes