TVP lousy 999 response
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stemll

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5,650 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Woken at 3:30 this morning by a car alarm outside. Had a quick peep to see which annoying false alarm it was to see two mopeds outside and three oiks messing with next door's car.

999 call to report a crime in progress with the offenders still present and still waiting now at 6am for an officer to turn up despite a chase up call to the non-emergency number after an hour. They claimed that a unit had been dispatched had seen the mopeds but lost sight of them (clearly too quick for their diesel Astra) but admitted that the officers never came into our street. WTF is that about.

Lucky it wasn't a personal safety call but my neighbour now has a three-wheeled Astra on his drive. Quite how you carry a wheel, brake and hub assembly on a moped escapes me but there you go.

How much moaning do Thames Valley Police deserve for this? I know it's not my car but it could have been as it's parked next to it and I'd be seriously picensoreded if it was. I also know they're never going to find out who did it so is it really worth the effort?

Edited by stemll on Wednesday 23 January 06:04

SirSimon

6,811 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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should have told them, they where speeding. Sure they would have been interesting. Just shows you that what you pay tax for, does'nt always pay you back.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.

stemll

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231 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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I appreciate the difficulty of catching kids on mopeds and the dangers involved in a pursuit of same (especially given their lack of helmets) and I also accept that they can easily disappear down a path that a car can't get down.

But how about attending the scene, talking to the only witness and speaking to the owner of the damaged car? After all, he's going to need a crime number for his insurance claim.

stepej

445 posts

271 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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vonhosen said:
they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
They'd get a round of applause off me. Get the little bacensoredds off the street any way you can.

voyds9

8,490 posts

314 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
They are police not social workers, they should be following their job description.

flemke

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268 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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FishFace said:
voyds9 said:
vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
They are police not social workers, they should be following their job description.
The irony is they are following their job description by NOT pursuing a moped.
LOL.

SLCZ3

1,295 posts

236 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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[quote=vonhosen]They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.

Same old crap about that sort of thing particularly after conviction of an 82 year old man, who uses a cane and has arthritis, of assualting two police officers.
Oh, and to all advanced drivers he was nicked because he strayed in to the middle of the road to pass some parked vehicles.

Let"s just see, the police force was formed due to the lawlessness on the streets of London many years ago(1829). I really feel that the founder of the Police force Sir Robert Peel would be ashamed at the reticent philoshopy of the police in this day and age.
He would i am sure overturn, the offender must not suffer attitude, that is so prevalent in today"s society.
I am sure that in reality most of the silent majority regard anyone who is injured in the action of trying to elude the police, after they have committed, or are committing a crime, have only themselves to blame and are deserving of no sympathy at all.
Bring back the stocks and the gibbet!!!!!!!
copsmash
http://www.ourwardfamily.com/sir_robert_peel.

viper paul

2,485 posts

305 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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There is an old saying that 'The people will get the Police Force they deserve'

In my road we all stick together rain, shine or night time, it does work.

But TVP should really have despatched more than one unit it could have solved many previous crimes and prevented future others.

Shame it is true that we can afford two officers in a camera van but none to respond to a crime in progress.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

235 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Ah you should of said i am just going outside now with my shotgun

They will appear mod handed to arrest you, they might get the scrotes too

And when down the station they will ask you about the goldfish bowl you are carrying, you then calmly explain that this is your goldfish and you call him shotgun

Zod

35,295 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
you know for a fact that they attended?

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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FishFace said:
voyds9 said:
vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
They are police not social workers, they should be following their job description.
The irony is they are following their job description by NOT pursuing a moped. Wrong? Quite possibly. That's the country we've all made - one that worries about the safety of the criminals and punishing the officers who pursue them rather than catching the criminals themselves.
Speak for yourself. I never voted for this bunch of s

BassMunkee

295 posts

241 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Probably off filming for another series of Road Wars... wink

stemll

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231 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Zod said:
vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
you know for a fact that they attended?
Never saw them. They said when I chased after an hour that a unit had been sent and had lost the mopeds. Never came to the house or spoke to anyone that saw anything. Need to speak to my neighbour when he gets back from work to see if they've even spoken to him, as the owner.

L1OFF

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287 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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so if you rob a bank, escape on a moped smile


streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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FishFace said:
voyds9 said:
vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
They are police not social workers, they should be following their job description.
The irony is they are following their job description by NOT pursuing a moped. Wrong? Quite possibly. That's the country we've all made - one that worries about the safety of the criminals and punishing the officers who pursue them rather than catching the criminals themselves.
I wasn't one of the 43.2% in 1997, nor was I one of the 40.7% in 2001, nor one of the 35.2% in 2005 who were beguiled by BLiar's "tough on crime ..." (on which all Home Secretaries have failed miserably!) and "clean up sleaze" (then ran the sleaziest parliament since 1695 ... when it became a 'high crime' for an MP to accept money for the "promoting of any matter whatsoever&quotwink into voting for a bunch of totqal incompetents - Streaky

polus

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256 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
Please tell me your joking as I fear this may cause my head to implode.

Is it related to crime? So if they are stealing then let them go (crime number and the folks can claim of their insurance), but what if they had just broken in somewhere and committed a serious crime?

I have to say whom ever is responsible for that policy hasn't much foresight.

stemll

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231 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Just spoken to my neighbour and the police did turn up about 6 hours after they were called. Apparently seemed decidedly uninterested.

Pretty impressive response time for a 999 call for a crime in progress with the offenders still present.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

248 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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stemll said:
Just spoken to my neighbour and the police did turn up about 6 hours after they were called. Apparently seemed decidedly uninterested.

Pretty impressive response time for a 999 call for a crime in progress with the offenders still present.
Probably one of only a few cars on duty.
They responded to the call, but lost the suspects.
They would then deal with the other immediate calls that come in (rather than being tied up reporting what could wait until a sociable hour in the morning, as they have so few to deal with theses calls at night) & when more officers come on in the morning they can take the report from the victim.
Sometimes at night there may only be a couple of officers covering an area where tens of thousands live.

jimmydee2007

99 posts

228 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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vonhosen said:
They did attend & try to catch them, they don't like pursuing kids on mopeds though because they'll get it in the neck if the kids hurt themselves.
Well thats good to know, next time i'm thinking of holding up a post office i'll ditch the Ferrari F40 getaway car and potter off into the sunset on my moped and extra firm hair gel!