Fake "fixed penalty notice" stickers illegal ?
Fake "fixed penalty notice" stickers illegal ?
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Medic-one

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3,143 posts

234 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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My apartmentcomplex has its own private car park in which all of us have an allocated space.

Most of us leave this carpark to the front of the building where it enters on a small sideroad, which futherdown has an exit onto the main road.
It also has a small back entrance but the road that exits on is much lower then the exitramp (probably not the right word, but i mean this small "hill" you also see/use to get on and off drives) so you will damage your bumper using that exit, especially with a low car.

The exit at the front of the building has 2 double yellow lines along it, as has the rest of that road. So it not allowed to park anywhere along that road on that side.

But when i came home some idiot was parked on the double yellows and right in front of our entry/exit to the carpark. So no-one could leave the carpark onto the public road, and no-one from the public road could get onto it.

I've waited for over 10 minutes and still no-one showed up, leaving me with no choice then the use the backentry of the carpark, for which i have to drive through 2 other small one-way streets, and then scrapped my bumper whilst going onto it, and i was only going like 1 mp/h, it's just to high from the streets.

Now what if, hypothetically speaking, rolleyes my neighbour got this set of fixed penalty notice stickers from ebay and gave me one, and i then, hypothetically, placed on of those stickers on this jackass's carwindow, would i be doing something illegal ?

Could this be seen as impersonating a traffic officer or something like that, or is it just a good way of getting back at some moran who blocked in an entire aparment complex ?

These are the stickers by the way, it's 5 of them for £1.99



Mr Robbo

1,209 posts

276 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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Similar problem with the apartment complex where I live (sounds so much better than block of flats dont you think ?) & various individuals who block off the entire (one way entry only) street due to fact that they have IQs akin to their shoe size.

Since in the past a quiet word has A) fallen on deaf ears & B) lead to threats of violence (which as I live in Bradford is more than likely to occur, I myself being a lover & not a fighter) I find that a large sheet of A3 paper with instructions on how to park & liberally coated with prit stick or some similar adhesive & placed over their windscreens usually works a treat.

lerd

227 posts

227 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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I had a similar problem some years ago, my i went to my car put a jumper between both bumpers and gently pushed the car forward, the other cars steering was slightly off center so car ended up in the middle of the quiet side road. Or failing this get 3 0r 4 people and bounce car out of the way.

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2008
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By using the words 'Fixed Penalty Notice' or FPN you are actually purporting that you have an official government authority to issue these notices.

I cannot find the statute now, but I do know that would be a criminal offence...

Medic-one

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3,143 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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JustinP1 said:
By using the words 'Fixed Penalty Notice' or FPN you are actually purporting that you have an official government authority to issue these notices.

I cannot find the statute now, but I do know that would be a criminal offence...
Hmmm, that's not really the anwser i was hoping for. Any of the bibs here who can indeed confirm this ?

Funk

27,800 posts

240 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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I wouldn't worry - who's going to know who put them there?

In fact at £1.99 for 5, I'd buy 20 packs and cover as much of the glass area with them as you can. That would be worth watching the response to..

SLCZ3

1,295 posts

236 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Call the cops, say there is a vehicle parked on double yellow lines preventing access to he public highway.
They should be reasonably speedy in answering the call.
The fixed penalty idea is a non starter as he will ignore them, and he will probably post on here about some d***head putting mickey mouse fixed penalties on his car and ask what should i do, and the reply will be tear them up.

scratchchin

Medic-one

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3,143 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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SLCZ3 said:
Call the cops, say there is a vehicle parked on double yellow lines preventing access to he public highway.
They should be reasonably speedy in answering the call.
rolleyes

Don't want to sound anti police but i highly doubt it that they will respond to something silly like this at all, let alone "reasonably speedy".

I my job i quiet often call for the police (agressive/violent patients, assistence at rta's, breaking in doors ets) and since they are often quiet busy we have to wait, sometimes upto 10-15 minutes (25 minutes yesterday before we could enter an adress which we refused to enter without police presence) so i'm sure they won't come or would take hours for someone parked on yellow lines.

And there's always the chance the cars leaves whilst i'm waiting for the police to show up.

I think the sticker is an good idea, it only happens on a rare occasion that someone parks there and since it's not the same car all the time the sticker will just make him annoyed because he thinks he got a ticket, but since he made a lot of others annoyed they couldn't enter their property that's what he deserves!

And i doubt he'll park there again, affraid for another ticket.

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Trespass, possibly criminal damage - Streaky

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

275 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Not a document under RTA's to be used with intent to deceive etc.

I cannot come up with any offence. After all it is only the holder of bad news.

As Streaky says - criminal damage if anything harmed?

dvd

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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parked in a stupid place years ago and got a "please dont park here again" sticker on the windscreen. it was an absolute bastard to remove in lots of tiny bits. fair enough really. i didnt park there again.

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Medic-one said:
JustinP1 said:
By using the words 'Fixed Penalty Notice' or FPN you are actually purporting that you have an official government authority to issue these notices.

I cannot find the statute now, but I do know that would be a criminal offence...
Hmmm, that's not really the anwser i was hoping for. Any of the bibs here who can indeed confirm this ?
Right,

I have fond the statute, and it is the Administration of Justice Act.

You wont contravene that as long as at no time you mention any kind of charge or payment that needs to be made. So, as long as there are no details placed inside the little plastic wallet, then according to that you are fine as far as I can see.

However, I am unsure how much use the sticker would be without the contents inside....

Well, when they come on this forum to find out what the **** is going on then I am sure this thread will get linked! Make sure you delete any details from your profile page which could link you or your property to your profile and posts!