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I think the time is coming. Just read that thread about the lane blocker who deliberately drove his pickup backwards at someone, and we've all had near misses on roundabouts when some old duffer straight lines it.
Not only that but insurance company scum are always trying to screw you over with a 50:50 for their benefit...
What are the legalities? Can the video be used in court?
Are there any recommendations for kit? I guess you'd just need something that'll record the past 5 or 10 minutes of action and you'd press a button to finalise a capture...
SM
Not only that but insurance company scum are always trying to screw you over with a 50:50 for their benefit...
What are the legalities? Can the video be used in court?
Are there any recommendations for kit? I guess you'd just need something that'll record the past 5 or 10 minutes of action and you'd press a button to finalise a capture...
SM
Wouldn't there be some ridiculous human rights law that you've infringed the other person's rights by not telling them you're going to record them before they commit a crime? Would have also thought you'd need approval on the devices to prove they aren't tamper proof and are a certain quality for evidential use etc?
I've also thought it would be a good idea, doubles up as a bullet cam when you're tearing around some fabulous B-roads or on track days
I've also thought it would be a good idea, doubles up as a bullet cam when you're tearing around some fabulous B-roads or on track days
Everybody tends to think "the other person is a worse driver than them"
I regularly read threads here where the original poster is outraged by another driver’s behaviour and in fact it's the original poster them self who is the one at fault.
You might think this camera car idea a good thing but your own camera could easily incriminate you or someone else's camera in their car could easily record you making a mistake.
I read somewhere that the average driver does something which could have fatal consequences once in every seventeen trips and of course I am sure the rest of the time makes less serious mistakes often.
I'm a member of the IAM, have had fast road instruction and observation courses from retired police instructors, have had car control classes on runways, skid pans, race tracks etc, have done track days with instruction. I have done these things to improve my driving, but I am very aware that I still make errors and know that my driving will not always stand up to scrutiny.
Remember just as you think some one else is a bad driver, someone will think it of you, sometimes they might be wrong to do so, but at other times you will have made a mistake, everybody does.
I regularly read threads here where the original poster is outraged by another driver’s behaviour and in fact it's the original poster them self who is the one at fault.
You might think this camera car idea a good thing but your own camera could easily incriminate you or someone else's camera in their car could easily record you making a mistake.
I read somewhere that the average driver does something which could have fatal consequences once in every seventeen trips and of course I am sure the rest of the time makes less serious mistakes often.
I'm a member of the IAM, have had fast road instruction and observation courses from retired police instructors, have had car control classes on runways, skid pans, race tracks etc, have done track days with instruction. I have done these things to improve my driving, but I am very aware that I still make errors and know that my driving will not always stand up to scrutiny.
Remember just as you think some one else is a bad driver, someone will think it of you, sometimes they might be wrong to do so, but at other times you will have made a mistake, everybody does.
JumJum said:
Everybody tends to think "the other person is a worse driver than them"
I regularly read threads here where the original poster is outraged by another driver’s behaviour and in fact it's the original poster them self who is the one at fault.
You might think this camera car idea a good thing but your own camera could easily incriminate you or someone else's camera in their car could easily record you making a mistake.
I read somewhere that the average driver does something which could have fatal consequences once in every seventeen trips and of course I am sure the rest of the time makes less serious mistakes often.
I'm a member of the IAM, have had fast road instruction and observation courses from retired police instructors, have had car control classes on runways, skid pans, race tracks etc, have done track days with instruction. I have done these things to improve my driving, but I am very aware that I still make errors and know that my driving will not always stand up to scrutiny.
Remember just as you think some one else is a bad driver, someone will think it of you, sometimes they might be wrong to do so, but at other times you will have made a mistake, everybody does.
Fascinating I'm sure. Now back to my in car camera question...I regularly read threads here where the original poster is outraged by another driver’s behaviour and in fact it's the original poster them self who is the one at fault.
You might think this camera car idea a good thing but your own camera could easily incriminate you or someone else's camera in their car could easily record you making a mistake.
I read somewhere that the average driver does something which could have fatal consequences once in every seventeen trips and of course I am sure the rest of the time makes less serious mistakes often.
I'm a member of the IAM, have had fast road instruction and observation courses from retired police instructors, have had car control classes on runways, skid pans, race tracks etc, have done track days with instruction. I have done these things to improve my driving, but I am very aware that I still make errors and know that my driving will not always stand up to scrutiny.
Remember just as you think some one else is a bad driver, someone will think it of you, sometimes they might be wrong to do so, but at other times you will have made a mistake, everybody does.
SM
JumJum said:
stuff...
Along those lines, somewhere there was a post about third-party perspective, possibly posted by reg (R_U_LOCAL) but I can't find it. Quite thought-provoking if you read it for the first time though.The other thing about the camera in the car, is you get a bloke like the one on betterdrivingplease that was being ripped on another thread recently after the bikes v cars TV prog. He'd record a video and post it on the web saying they're a crap driver, but he has no idea what they're like apart from one split second video where they might have made an uncharacteristic mistake.
supermono said:
cj_eds said:
Along those lines, somewhere there was a post about third-party perspective, possibly posted by reg (R_U_LOCAL) but I can't find it. Quite thought-provoking if you read it for the first time though.
Did it tell me about camera evidence and recommend a setup?SM
Normal bullet cam stuff: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Don't know about the type of thing your looking at, never seen one for sale that I could play with.
They have that thing in the States.
E.g. I've just Googled and found:
http://www.truscene.com
Lots more. Google accident camera.
E.g. I've just Googled and found:
http://www.truscene.com
Lots more. Google accident camera.
I was thinking of this myself, watching the watchers...
http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/taxi-camera.htm
This one seems to be super high quality and long recording times like CCTV but the setup is quite costly and aimed at taxi drivers.
http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/drivesafe-vehicle-cam...
This one seems more home user and wallet friendly but doesn't timestamp. It does have more video-like recoeding quality and I also noticed the same things are much cheaper on fleabay. Would evidence of a collision from one of these stand up in court though as it does not timestamp like the one above it.
http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/taxi-camera.htm
This one seems to be super high quality and long recording times like CCTV but the setup is quite costly and aimed at taxi drivers.
http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/drivesafe-vehicle-cam...
This one seems more home user and wallet friendly but doesn't timestamp. It does have more video-like recoeding quality and I also noticed the same things are much cheaper on fleabay. Would evidence of a collision from one of these stand up in court though as it does not timestamp like the one above it.
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