Camera Van, whats the margin?
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On the way to fetch aged Aunt and Uncle from Gatwick, as always in a rush, I believe I was caught by the above mentioned Van.
Sadly I did not react fast enough to a public spirited citizen flashing his lights coming in the opposite direction. (In France would have taken more notice, but not a common occurence here).
Speedo was at about 50 or just below when I glanced at it and to be honest this was probably the max I was doing. (40MPH limit)
Should I be getting the cheque book out??
Sadly I did not react fast enough to a public spirited citizen flashing his lights coming in the opposite direction. (In France would have taken more notice, but not a common occurence here).
Speedo was at about 50 or just below when I glanced at it and to be honest this was probably the max I was doing. (40MPH limit)
Should I be getting the cheque book out??
Ballon said:
On the way to fetch aged Aunt and Uncle from Gatwick, as always in a rush, I believe I was caught by the above mentioned Van.
Sadly I did not react fast enough to a public spirited citizen flashing his lights coming in the opposite direction. (In France would have taken more notice, but not a common occurrence here).
Speedo was at about 50 or just below when I glanced at it and to be honest this was probably the max I was doing. (40MPH limit)
Should I be getting the cheque book out??
Always flash people to warn them of a scamera hazard, thought that is the general thing to do ?Sadly I did not react fast enough to a public spirited citizen flashing his lights coming in the opposite direction. (In France would have taken more notice, but not a common occurrence here).
Speedo was at about 50 or just below when I glanced at it and to be honest this was probably the max I was doing. (40MPH limit)
Should I be getting the cheque book out??
Suspect a cheque book would be a good thing to find, but see how it goes, if you are driving a French vehicle under french plates, then you will probably get away with it
SLCZ3 said:
10% + 2 mph is the "allowance" so you were over by a significant margin.
Anyway take it like a man.
No question of not accepting my punishment, just seeing whether it was likely or not.Anyway take it like a man.
May have an outside hope of escape as my speedo over registers, as do most, and as I said when I glanced down it was around 50 not over.
It's a good question and one that no-one here seems to able to answer. The standard reply is "10% plus 2" but who knows what the briefing of the scamera crews is when they set off on in the morning. It also depends how much time they spend actively shooting as it must get indescribably boring cooped up in the back of a van watching the traffic for hours on end and with only another scammer for company! I suppose they have to stop for coffee and nature etc. So presumably there will be periods of high income generation punctuated by ..... (whatever makes you smile 
).
Once upon a time we had Street Cop
on the board who was so reviled when he said he ws going to become a scammer that he resigned from PH (unless he is still here in another guise). In his last posts he offered to answer questions about scamming but sadly no-one asked anything sensible.
It always makes the blood drain into my boots when I see a scamera van lurking and passing one usually means another 14 days nail biting and watching out for the brown envelope. Seem to spend a lot of time doing that (although usually I am a model citizen!!). Happy watching
). Once upon a time we had Street Cop
on the board who was so reviled when he said he ws going to become a scammer that he resigned from PH (unless he is still here in another guise). In his last posts he offered to answer questions about scamming but sadly no-one asked anything sensible. It always makes the blood drain into my boots when I see a scamera van lurking and passing one usually means another 14 days nail biting and watching out for the brown envelope. Seem to spend a lot of time doing that (although usually I am a model citizen!!). Happy watching
I was going down the M4 about 83ish and had just been overtaken by someone doing 88ish near Swindon. Yes there were vans and yes I didn't notice until it was way too late and yes talking on the phone is distracting. 8 weeks later no NIP.
My bet is they had the camera on the guy in front and I got away with it.
My bet is they had the camera on the guy in front and I got away with it.
Thanks for the responses, I will keep my fingers crossed.
The bizarre thing is that a few 100yds up the road is a bl**dy Gatso(A217 near Burgh Heath). Obvioulsy hoping to catch us miscreants before we brake for the scamera, I would suspect that it was a very profitable days work.
Worth remembering for all those who use the A217.
The bizarre thing is that a few 100yds up the road is a bl**dy Gatso(A217 near Burgh Heath). Obvioulsy hoping to catch us miscreants before we brake for the scamera, I would suspect that it was a very profitable days work.
Worth remembering for all those who use the A217.
Plotloss said:
10%+2mph
So 46 and above, you're pinched, theoretically.
However, if you were just under 50mph, your speedo will overread by a few mph so you maybe lucky.
If I were to have a bet, I'd be putting cash on no ticket.
It is all rather complex. Police speed devices used to have a 10% allowance 'built in' so that if they read 30mph it would mean 33mph. On top of that there was the 10% +2mph. So the actual speed limit was 38.3mph. This was, in practice, rounded up to 40mph unless there were aggravating circumstances. Whilst the cut-off point has dropped to a 10%+2mph (indicated 35mph for a 30 limit) I know that in my old force, the over-reading is still the norm. It's similar to the blood-testing 'allowances'. Whenever anyone paid to have their own sample tested the reading was always higher than the one the police produced.So 46 and above, you're pinched, theoretically.
However, if you were just under 50mph, your speedo will overread by a few mph so you maybe lucky.
If I were to have a bet, I'd be putting cash on no ticket.
With non-police run Gatsos the situation is slightly different. Firstly, prosecution can start at 10%+2mph which, in effect, drops the limit to 10%+1mph. Further, they often do not include the 10% 'allowance'. On top of that, some speedos are quite frightenly accurate. On my daughter's Golf, 70mph is shown on the satnav when the speedo is showing 76mph. On my Mondeo, it comes up at 72mph. That's a massive difference, and a big surprise to me.
I hope that's clear.
Derek Smith said:
Plotloss said:
10%+2mph
So 46 and above, you're pinched, theoretically.
However, if you were just under 50mph, your speedo will overread by a few mph so you maybe lucky.
If I were to have a bet, I'd be putting cash on no ticket.
It is all rather complex. Police speed devices used to have a 10% allowance 'built in' so that if they read 30mph it would mean 33mph. On top of that there was the 10% +2mph. So the actual speed limit was 38.3mph. This was, in practice, rounded up to 40mph unless there were aggravating circumstances. Whilst the cut-off point has dropped to a 10%+2mph (indicated 35mph for a 30 limit) I know that in my old force, the over-reading is still the norm. It's similar to the blood-testing 'allowances'. Whenever anyone paid to have their own sample tested the reading was always higher than the one the police produced.So 46 and above, you're pinched, theoretically.
However, if you were just under 50mph, your speedo will overread by a few mph so you maybe lucky.
If I were to have a bet, I'd be putting cash on no ticket.
With non-police run Gatsos the situation is slightly different. Firstly, prosecution can start at 10%+2mph which, in effect, drops the limit to 10%+1mph. Further, they often do not include the 10% 'allowance'. On top of that, some speedos are quite frightenly accurate. On my daughter's Golf, 70mph is shown on the satnav when the speedo is showing 76mph. On my Mondeo, it comes up at 72mph. That's a massive difference, and a big surprise to me.
I hope that's clear.
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