Your opinion on NSL
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85mph clear conditions, 60 otherwise - to be combined with 70mph minimum in overtaking lane unless the lower poor-conditions limit is in force.
Tailgating (at speed) would be 3 points and fine for everyone doing it. Same with not keeping left. Probably have to be done using (ugh) video cameras over several gantries and clever software to pick out serial offenders.
That's what I would consider to be an acceptable compromise between the standards of modern car high speed stability and braking, versus typical current driving standards.
Tailgating (at speed) would be 3 points and fine for everyone doing it. Same with not keeping left. Probably have to be done using (ugh) video cameras over several gantries and clever software to pick out serial offenders.
That's what I would consider to be an acceptable compromise between the standards of modern car high speed stability and braking, versus typical current driving standards.
Edited by Timberwolf on Tuesday 12th February 16:23
I had to go to Manchester to collect an engine. In total just over 600 miles. End of journey I'd managed to average 63. The journey itself was as awful as I thought as I had to get up at 4.30am but I must admit, it has to rate as one of nicest drives due to clear roads, most people doing 80+ in outside lane and not 1 idiot pulling a stunt today.
supermono said:
It should be increased by 10mph per year until after 5 years it's got rid of.
But increased police patrols to keep people sensible. You'll find people given responsibility for their speed will drive proudly once again and safety will improve, accidents will come down.
SM
i could live with that, i bet very few would really go above 100 anyway most people appear happy at 80/90 unlike some But increased police patrols to keep people sensible. You'll find people given responsibility for their speed will drive proudly once again and safety will improve, accidents will come down.
SM
I think the limit should be increased to at least 80 on the motorways. But another good idea, would be to put up big signs along the motorway saying:
'KEEP LEFT, UNLESS OVERTAKING'
They have these on the continent, a great idea!
Oh and there should be a TVR only lane
'KEEP LEFT, UNLESS OVERTAKING'
They have these on the continent, a great idea!
Oh and there should be a TVR only lane
Edited by Aubrey on Tuesday 12th February 17:03
100mph when very quiet.
85mph otherwise, and when overtaking without a lane of separation.
70mph when wet, less for fog etc.
But this would be difficult to enforce e.g. what is "quiet", how much fog is "foggy" etc.
Also we can't have graduated licensing and rules on vehicle standards because I don't think we'd be allowed to discriminate against people which are poor and/or can't drive properly.
So realistically 85mph, 70 when wet, and a good dose of common (or not so common perhaps?) sense.
But I am pretty sure that no NSL will rise in my lifetime. Not so sure about it being reduced though.
85mph otherwise, and when overtaking without a lane of separation.
70mph when wet, less for fog etc.
But this would be difficult to enforce e.g. what is "quiet", how much fog is "foggy" etc.
Also we can't have graduated licensing and rules on vehicle standards because I don't think we'd be allowed to discriminate against people which are poor and/or can't drive properly.
So realistically 85mph, 70 when wet, and a good dose of common (or not so common perhaps?) sense.
But I am pretty sure that no NSL will rise in my lifetime. Not so sure about it being reduced though.
Aubrey said:
I think the limit should be increased to at least 80 on the motorways. But another good idea, would be to put up big signs along the motorway saying:
'KEEP LEFT, UNLESS OVERTAKING'
They have these on the continent, a great idea!
if thats what they have abroad they'd say keep right here - hang on they all do!'KEEP LEFT, UNLESS OVERTAKING'
They have these on the continent, a great idea!
100 sounds good to me, with lower limits for crap weather, 80 in rain?
oh & some proper policing where all tailgaters & lane hogs get pulled & ranted at along with the dicks who drive in rain/fog/dark without lights.
Normally I think 70 is safest just due to shear volume of traffic but roads like the M6 toll should be 90 and you should be able to do 90 after a certain time of night when the roads are dead.
Trouble is though, while it may appear safe at that speed, the stopping distance is massively increased and even crappy little cars like 1.0 clios can hit 90 so couple that with shit brakes and an inexperienced driver it'd be crazy.
Trouble is though, while it may appear safe at that speed, the stopping distance is massively increased and even crappy little cars like 1.0 clios can hit 90 so couple that with shit brakes and an inexperienced driver it'd be crazy.
paoloh said:
Was driving up and then down the M6 toll road today and everybody was doing 100ish. Everyone indicating, leaving good space and being courteous. It got me thinking....
Just goes to show what happens when you get rid of the people who can't drive or are too interested in the phone/sat nav/newspaper. The toll road having a charge seem to filter out these morons and it does work very well.supermono said:
It should be increased by 10mph per year until after 5 years it's got rid of.
Excellent idea, but never going to happen.The UK is rabidly anti-car and has just about
the lowest NSL in Europe and hasn't seen fit
to change it in over thirty years.
Even copying the French [ 70 mph in rain, 80 mph
in dry, start ticketing at 100 mph, fines get heavier
and heavier above that but no automatic charge
of dangerous driving] would be a massive step
in the right direction.
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