Can I get nicked for a gatso facing forwards?

Can I get nicked for a gatso facing forwards?

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merlin5

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112 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Was testing out my 335i today on some deresticted roads. Coming back into town, I zoomed through a gatso (classic - not truvelo or new tall gatso) facing me (ie. on the other side of the road). It flashed twice in front of me as I sped through. I thought all this time they can only get you if they catch your 'rear' but then I was thinking, there are white dots on both sides of the road. Can I get nicked for this - or can I truly sleep in peace tonight? I know they sometimes can go off due to interference on the other side of the road.

Edited by merlin5 on Tuesday 12th February 19:50

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

216 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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If it is a 'classic' then maybe there will be no film in it.
Otherwise you are doomed...

davido140

9,614 posts

240 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Pretty sure you are safe, they are designed for rear facing pictures, no white lines on your side of the road? no way to verify the distance travelled between the two photos.

merlin5

Original Poster:

112 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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davido140 said:
Pretty sure you are safe, they are designed for rear facing pictures, no white lines on your side of the road? no way to verify the distance travelled between the two photos.
It was a single lane road in each direction with the camera on one side but dots in the middle of the road were on both lanes. That is why I am not sure if I can get 'done'.

Tam

135 posts

253 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Fairly sure you're safe - I've been flashed a couple of times by Gatsos on the other side of the road (i.e. facing me) and never got a ticket, even if there have been white marks on my side of the road.

Hooli

32,278 posts

214 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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i dont think the original gasto is type approved for front pics in the UK so your safe.

marshalla

15,902 posts

215 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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davido140 said:
no white lines on your side of the road? no way to verify the distance travelled between the two photos.
Lots of ways of doing it - all that's needed is at least two fixed reference points which can be measured. Distance and speed can be calculated from these.

mchoody

331 posts

219 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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I'm the same, been flashed by quite a few this way and never had anything back. You should be ok.

JonRB

77,527 posts

286 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Some conflicting information here.

I can tell you quite authoritatively that the traditional film-based Gatso cameras are designed to take forward-facing shots, are capable, do take them, but are not type-approved in the UK and therefore can't be used to prosecute.

This information is over 10 years old, mind, but I haven't heard of them being approved for forward-facing in that time. So basically you are in the clear.

The Truvelo camera, though, is designed, used and approved for forward-facing, so watch out for that.

Edit: The Gatso flashes twice for rear-facing shots and once for forward-facing shots. It can't and won't take a double photo on approaching (ie. forward facing) vehicles.

Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 13th February 00:15

Blue Tomcat

823 posts

236 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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You are safe. Gatso cameras are not licenced in this country to monitor oncoming vehicles, although they work in both directions in Holland and Belgium. The cabbies in our area use this trick to monitor the trigger-speeds of all our local cameras. One in our area covering a thirty limit does not 'pop' until fourty one!

Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Scuse my ignorance, can someone just remind me what different scameras there are and how to identify them?

Brett928S2

1,504 posts

229 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Hi smile

There is one near me that flashes BOTH ways, but only prosecutes one way if you see what I mean smile

All the best Brett smile

jimmyb

12,254 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Traditional gatsos cannot flash forwards due to the flash potentially causing temporary blindness (which when you think about it is not very safe)

Presently three types

!. Rearfacing gatso so as you approach you see the bright yellow rear and it takes a photo of the back of your car double flash with a series of small parralell lines on the road evenly spaced over around 20metres.

Truvelo faces forwards same style box as gatso two round lenses one red one clear takes a pic of the front of car usually two to three lines across the road as you approach.

Specs average speed cams (vultures). Does what it says on the tin.They sit on poles high up street light level over the road and watch your approach. First camera reads your numberplate and the time second camera reads your plate and time averages it out between both times to see if you were over the limit. Its all digital so can issue tickets till hell freezes over.

Edited by jimmyb on Tuesday 12th February 23:27

merlin5

Original Poster:

112 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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Thanks a lot everyone. I certainly feel very reassured...

Ordinary Bloke

4,559 posts

212 months

Tuesday 12th February 2008
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But do let us know when the summons arrives wink

JonRB

77,527 posts

286 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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jimmyb said:
Traditional gatsos cannot flash forwards due to the flash potentially causing temporary blindness
They can, and they do - see my earlier post (which you evidently didn't read). It's just the operators usually set the threshold quite high so they don't waste film.

jimmyb said:
(which when you think about it is not very safe)
Let's not go there. Cameras cause panic braking which in itself isn't very safe. And anyway, the Safety (sic) Camera Partnership aren't interested in safety, just cash.

Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 13th February 00:16

JonRB

77,527 posts

286 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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anonymous said:
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radar

Aubrey

1,157 posts

210 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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There is a Gatso near me that flashes both ways, it will only capture people going one way (down hill as it happens) when it flashes if you go the other way, up the hill, the flashes go off when you are about level with the camera. You are not even in the shot when it takes the picture, so they just get an empty stretch of road, sleep easy chap!

blueyes

4,799 posts

266 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Jeez! How mant feckin times have I answered this? Doesn't anybody use the search facility?

OK. Last time!
Gatso flashes you face on. It's empty. No camera inside. No ticket. End.



Feck... too much coffee this morning!

splitter / judas

4,330 posts

223 months

Wednesday 13th February 2008
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Ordinary Bloke said:
Scuse my ignorance, can someone just remind me what different scameras there are and how to identify them?
http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/speed-camera-types.htm

HTH