Government wants every English child on 'secure' database
Discussion
Here's the link. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/register/20080213/ttc-gov...
Looks like ID to me by stealth.
Looks like ID to me by stealth.
Recycled news, covered (in part at least and in combination with other matters, such as the proposed National ID Database and the existing DNA databases) here previously.
I'm pleased you put "secure" in inverted commas. The only 'secure' computer is one that is unplugged, crushed into a cube, encased in concrete and fired into space ... and even then I'm not too sure *.
This is yet another means of acquiring a National ID system by stealth. The article doesn't mention that the children of "celebrities" (doubtless including MPs) will not appear on the database. In similar vein, "celebrities" will not need to submit their Tax Returns online from next year ... unlike the rest of us. Why? Because HMRC is concerned that the system might be vulnerable to hackers and that the data might be compromised. Far easier, I would say, to have them send it all to you on CD!
Streaky
I'm pleased you put "secure" in inverted commas. The only 'secure' computer is one that is unplugged, crushed into a cube, encased in concrete and fired into space ... and even then I'm not too sure *.
This is yet another means of acquiring a National ID system by stealth. The article doesn't mention that the children of "celebrities" (doubtless including MPs) will not appear on the database. In similar vein, "celebrities" will not need to submit their Tax Returns online from next year ... unlike the rest of us. Why? Because HMRC is concerned that the system might be vulnerable to hackers and that the data might be compromised. Far easier, I would say, to have them send it all to you on CD!
Streaky
* With apologies to my sometime drinking and appalling joke-telling chum, Prof Gene "Spaf" Spafford of Purdue University
I dont think we should be doing this.
a database of every child in the country?
I think we should be concerned what info is kept on there if it goes ahead I fear we may see more kids taken for order.
only takes one sicko who knows about computers/ios/internet/etc and this could be a scary outcome.
a database of every child in the country?
I think we should be concerned what info is kept on there if it goes ahead I fear we may see more kids taken for order.
only takes one sicko who knows about computers/ios/internet/etc and this could be a scary outcome.
Edited by DucatiGary on Wednesday 13th February 23:11
I'm not keen on it either but the theory (unless the goalposts have moved) is not an interest in your average child in a stable home but the unfortunates who are constantly moved from school to school due to parental job changes, divorce/separation or whatever. A child suddenly arrives at the school gates in the middle of term with nothing known of their background, special needs or anything else. By looking them up on the database (and getting the right child) the school can see what's been going on.
That's the theory. Wait for it to all go pear-shaped.
That's the theory. Wait for it to all go pear-shaped.
Jasandjules said:
Now, I'm not being funny, but I spent years moving around different schools in different countries when I was a kid, and yet they all managed to get on without any database on me.....
But (a) that was before computers (at least in my case), and (b) the services were (generally) good at making sure your file travelled alongside you (at least in my case ... well, not actually in my case, mostly in the back of a Dak and a Bedford RL ... if you see what I mean) - Streakystreaky said:
This is yet another means of acquiring a National ID system by stealth. The article doesn't mention that the children of "celebrities" (doubtless including MPs) will not appear on the database.
Worse - it's "Stealth with Neon Lights".All my children will be "celebrities" in my view, so I needn't worry as it won't apply to them :|
streaky said:
Recycled news, covered (in part at least and in combination with other matters, such as the proposed National ID Database and the existing DNA databases) here previously.
I'm pleased you put "secure" in inverted commas. The only 'secure' computer is one that is unplugged, crushed into a cube, encased in concrete and fired into space ... and even then I'm not too sure *.
This is yet another means of acquiring a National ID system by stealth. The article doesn't mention that the children of "celebrities" (doubtless including MPs) will not appear on the database. In similar vein, "celebrities" will not need to submit their Tax Returns online from next year ... unlike the rest of us. Why? Because HMRC is concerned that the system might be vulnerable to hackers and that the data might be compromised. Far easier, I would say, to have them send it all to you on CD!
Streaky
how do I register as being a celebrity? Is there a form to fill in? I'm pleased you put "secure" in inverted commas. The only 'secure' computer is one that is unplugged, crushed into a cube, encased in concrete and fired into space ... and even then I'm not too sure *.
This is yet another means of acquiring a National ID system by stealth. The article doesn't mention that the children of "celebrities" (doubtless including MPs) will not appear on the database. In similar vein, "celebrities" will not need to submit their Tax Returns online from next year ... unlike the rest of us. Why? Because HMRC is concerned that the system might be vulnerable to hackers and that the data might be compromised. Far easier, I would say, to have them send it all to you on CD!
Streaky
* With apologies to my sometime drinking and appalling joke-telling chum, Prof Gene "Spaf" Spafford of Purdue University
I've just read that article again, and I must admit my piss is boiling. Its so utterly transparant its a joke. a "mini cv that employers can check" what the hell is the point of that? and if its "check-able" by "employers" its never going to be very secure is it?
whens the next general election?
whens the next general election?
tigger1 said:
Reported on the news today that there'll be an opt-out...much like ID cards I guess, "yes, you don't HAVE to have one, unless you want to drive / get a passport / use a library etc....it's completely voluntary!"
Ah yes, the classic way to introduce something that the majority don't want. Say it's voluntary then make life difficult for those who don't "volunteer".streaky said:
But (a) that was before computers (at least in my case), and (b) the services were (generally) good at making sure your file travelled alongside you (at least in my case ... well, not actually in my case, mostly in the back of a Dak and a Bedford RL ... if you see what I mean) - Streaky
What file? I just had to turn up a new school and my parents would explain, then I'd sit tests, and be allocated my classes.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff