Magistrates Age ???
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Brett928S2

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246 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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Hi smile

On our local radio station they are asking for people to be magistrates..

They state that they can be from 18 to 65...

The thought of an 18 year old magistrate terrifies me lol but would they or have they actually made anyone of that age one ???

Does anyone know the age of the youngest ?

I did think about volunteering but I am not allowed to, which is maybe just as well as I would probably hang all the criminals and let off all the speeders smile

All the best Brett smile


Richard C

1,685 posts

288 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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they are finding it difficult to find any mags that don't have speeding convictions. The 2 I know have.

peterguk

2,622 posts

248 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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Brett928S2 said:
I did think about volunteering but I am not allowed to, which is maybe just as well as I would probably hang all the criminals and let off all the speeders smile
Sounds OK to me. But hang the inappropriate speeders too i hope...

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

292 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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The problem is that you have to give up so many weekdays few people who aren't retired have time to do it. They are just trying to lower the average slightly.

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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I think I saw on TV there was a 19-20yr old Mag somewhere or other, youngest in the country...

Worrying stuff that people with zero experience of the real world can hold such a post.

Kinky

39,946 posts

300 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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Jasandjules said:
I think I saw on TV there was a 19-20yr old Mag somewhere or other, youngest in the country...
Yeah - it was about a year ago or so that they became one - caused a bit of a furore at the time IIRC - suffice to say there were some threads on here about it hehe

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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Lucy Tate - 19 at the time in late 2006. Previously the youngest was a 20-year-old male (in 2005). Currently the minimum age is 18, but there have been some rumblings that 'they' would like to reduce it to 16! Until 2004 it was 27 (odd age). Magistrates retire at 70, but can ask to be placed on the Supplemental List thereafter - Streaky

turbobloke

117,539 posts

291 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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Jasandjules said:
I think I saw on TV there was a 19-20yr old Mag somewhere or other, youngest in the country...

Worrying stuff that people with zero experience of the real world can hold such a post.
Those I've had experience of continue to have problems after any particular period. Clearly this generalisation maligns a few good eggs and stipes but when a leading barrister describes mags as dispensing "justice by the yard" you know it's a lost cause.

Allowing themselves to be partnered by the police (etc) in so-called safety partnerships shows they have absolutely no awareness of the principles of natural justice, but then neither do most CPS, police or politicians so they're in good company. It's a squalid little world.

splitter / judas

4,330 posts

240 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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I would guess the under 21's would be dealing with youth young persons court?








I hate all this PC rubbish!!!

Jasandjules

72,683 posts

260 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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turbobloke said:
Those I've had experience of continue to have problems after any particular period. Clearly this generalisation maligns a few good eggs and stipes but when a leading barrister describes mags as dispensing "justice by the yard" you know it's a lost cause.
Don't get me wrong, I've only ever seen two Mags I thought were fit to hold the position. The rest seemed to be so far up their own a***les it was untrue. And worringly predictable in their prejudices too. Indeed, some of the judgments handed down IME were in fits of pique, rather than considered judgement, which to my mind is unacceptable.

My, someone basic understanding of Mags is that they are meant to be pillars of the community in some way shape or form, I fail to see how anyone of 18 can be so.

Edited by Jasandjules on Saturday 16th February 15:44

turbobloke

117,539 posts

291 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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Jasandjules said:
turbobloke said:
Those I've had experience of continue to have problems after any particular period. Clearly this generalisation maligns a few good eggs and stipes but when a leading barrister describes mags as dispensing "justice by the yard" you know it's a lost cause.
Don't get me wrong, I've only ever seen two Mags I thought were fit to hold the position. The rest seemed to be so far up their own a***les it was untrue. And worringly predictable in their prejudices too. Indeed, some of the judgments handed down IME were in fits of pique, rather than considered judgement, which to my mind is unacceptable.

My, someone basic understanding of Mags is that they are meant to be pillars of the community in some way shape or form, I fail to see how anyone of 18 can be so.
It's a bit like politicians - with the necessary acknowledgement of some notable exceptions, those who go for this line of 'work' are often those who really ought not to.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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Is it just me, or did anyone else think of Twinners when they read thids thread? hehe

Taita

8,016 posts

234 months

Saturday 16th February 2008
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turbobloke said:
Jasandjules said:
turbobloke said:
Those I've had experience of continue to have problems after any particular period. Clearly this generalisation maligns a few good eggs and stipes but when a leading barrister describes mags as dispensing "justice by the yard" you know it's a lost cause.
Don't get me wrong, I've only ever seen two Mags I thought were fit to hold the position. The rest seemed to be so far up their own a***les it was untrue. And worringly predictable in their prejudices too. Indeed, some of the judgments handed down IME were in fits of pique, rather than considered judgement, which to my mind is unacceptable.

My, someone basic understanding of Mags is that they are meant to be pillars of the community in some way shape or form, I fail to see how anyone of 18 can be so.
It's a bit like politicians - with the necessary acknowledgement of some notable exceptions, those who go for this line of 'work' are often those who really ought not to.
Exactly right. My uncles wife is almost one, I shudder at the thought. She is one of the most manipulative and selfish people I have ever met.

robwales

1,427 posts

241 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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Jasandjules said:
I think I saw on TV there was a 19-20yr old Mag somewhere or other, youngest in the country...

Worrying stuff that people with zero experience of the real world can hold such a post.
Yes it it quite worrying, also a lot of people are very open to external influence (read: govt' bullshit) at that age.

streaky

19,311 posts

280 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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splitter / judas said:
I would guess the under 21's would be dealing with youth young persons court?
I hate all this PC rubbish!!!
And you'd be wrong - Streaky

tigger1

8,483 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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What disqualifies somebody from being a Magistrate?

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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tigger1 said:
What disqualifies somebody from being a Magistrate?
KKK membership.

Seriously though, speaking to a couple of friends of mine who are mags, they said if you have more than 6 points on your licence!

tigger1

8,483 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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So no longer certain professions or previous (minor) convictions?

That's a good thing though, makes them more representative of society, which after all is the whole point of them

RtdRacer

1,274 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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turbobloke said:
Those I've had experience of continue to have problems after any particular period. Clearly this generalisation maligns a few good eggs and stipes
You're right there.
turbobloke said:
but when a leading barrister describes mags as dispensing "justice by the yard" you know it's a lost cause.

Allowing themselves to be partnered by the police (etc) in so-called safety partnerships shows they have absolutely no awareness of the principles of natural justice, but then neither do most CPS, police or politicians so they're in good company. It's a squalid little world.
Total rubbish. How is the bench a partner in these safety partnerships?

It is usually the Bib, local council, county council and HA.

We do not take sides - I would suggest you remember that before throwing accusations of the bench not understanding natural justice.

I would say 9 out of 10 of my colleagues have a bloody good understanding of 'natural justice' - there is the odd 'fogey', I admit, but they are surprisingly scarce, certainly on my bench.

RtdRacer

1,274 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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turbobloke said:
...but when a leading barrister describes mags as dispensing "justice by the yard" you know it's a lost cause.
Oh, and if he's a leading barrister, he will of course have absolutely sod all experience of magistrate's courts. Far too important, him.

Edited by RtdRacer on Tuesday 19th February 19:14