Declaring alloy wheels to insurance
Declaring alloy wheels to insurance
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Miffy84

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Evening all.

Basically, I've been looking at buying a Passat TDi estate soon. I'd like to fit some nicer, larger Audi wheels to it. As these are from the VAG family parts bin, do they still have to be declared as an aftermarket modification? Or can you get away with saying they are a VAG original parts replacement for damaged original wheels?

Smithy

splitter / judas

4,330 posts

240 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Have to declare them as they are not standard.

i want an aero

642 posts

237 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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best to inform them as if they were stolen they would only replace with standard alloys or steel whichever was originaly on car

Mark V8

1,535 posts

240 months

Tuesday 19th February 2008
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Inform them or they can use this non-disclosure of modifications as a reason (excuse) to reject your claim in the event of an accident etc....and they will try...

jondude

2,441 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Mark is right. Happened to my neighbour. Someone threw acid ( yeah, what lovely country we live in ) all over his Mini Clubman...respray quoted at 2,000 pounds...they came down, noticed he had alloys but had not told them, pulled cover.

Even cancelled his policy to boot.

Not all companies are this petty - the alloys did not in any way, shape or form contribute to the accident or claim - but it is a get-out-of-jail card and they will use it without any doubt if the claim is costly.

Miffy84

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Thanks for the info guys. Was intrigued as to whether non-standard alloys from the same manufacture counted as an aftermarket addition. Well, I'll ask the insurers when it comes to the time. Out of interest, how does the same situation work if bought with the car from the dealership? Is this registerd on the vehicle documents to show it was originally supplied equipment?

Smithy

splitter / judas

4,330 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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If the parts are not factory fitted then they are counted as added extras and will need to be disclosed to the insurance company.

SMB

1,523 posts

297 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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splitter / judas said:
If the parts are not factory fitted then they are counted as added extras and will need to be disclosed to the insurance company.
some insurance companies eg elephant, do not even cover optional factory fit wheels even if you declare them. they will increase premium to reflect increased risk, but only payout for std spec.

splitter / judas

4,330 posts

240 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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SMB said:
splitter / judas said:
If the parts are not factory fitted then they are counted as added extras and will need to be disclosed to the insurance company.
some insurance companies eg elephant, do not even cover optional factory fit wheels even if you declare them. they will increase premium to reflect increased risk, but only payout for std spec.
fkers ranting

pdV6

16,442 posts

292 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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splitter / judas said:
SMB said:
splitter / judas said:
If the parts are not factory fitted then they are counted as added extras and will need to be disclosed to the insurance company.
some insurance companies eg elephant, do not even cover optional factory fit wheels even if you declare them. they will increase premium to reflect increased risk, but only payout for std spec.
fkers ranting
Indeed. Lunacy at work, there.

Rocco Stigfredi

1,801 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Any idea what the deal would be if you fitted lower spec wheels?

Eg, winter wheels to keep your shiney manufacturer alloys mint when the weather goes south?

pdV6

16,442 posts

292 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Rocco Stigfredi said:
Any idea what the deal would be if you fitted lower spec wheels?

Eg, winter wheels to keep your shiney manufacturer alloys mint when the weather goes south?
Man said:
I think, therefore I am
Insurance company said:
I insure, therefore I wriggle

SMB

1,523 posts

297 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Rocco Stigfredi said:
Any idea what the deal would be if you fitted lower spec wheels?

Eg, winter wheels to keep your shiney manufacturer alloys mint when the weather goes south?
i think we all know the answer to that one.....

Rocco Stigfredi

1,801 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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i assumed as much... cheers smile

JulianHJ

8,871 posts

293 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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another vote for telling them - not worth the risk otherwise.

tigger1

8,483 posts

252 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Rocco Stigfredi said:
Any idea what the deal would be if you fitted lower spec wheels?

Eg, winter wheels to keep your shiney manufacturer alloys mint when the weather goes south?
You drive in winter?

You must be a higher risk...

Kevin 996C4

13,888 posts

311 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Just had an interesting conversation with elephant myself.

Had rear parking sensors fitted to my Jeep Cherokee so thought I should tell the insurer.

Elephant said - 'We do not payout for non-factory modifications'
I said - 'So the premium remains the same then'
Elephant said - 'It will increase by £xx'
I said - 'Why? surely the addition makes it less likely for accidental damage when reversing'
Elephant said - 'It is a modification'
I said - 'But one to reduce the likelihood of an accident whilst parking'
Elephant said - 'Statistics show people with rear parking sensors are more likely to hit soemthing when reversing because they believe the sensors'

At that point I gave up and challenged the amount of the increase (nearly 12% annually), elephant admitted 2/3rds of amount was administration fee and agreed to withdraw the fee part of the extra charge bringing it down to £6.99 from about £20.

AndrewTait

1,849 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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I have a similar question. I bought a car second hand from a friend who bought it from a VW main dealer. The car came with VW alloys on it, and a large number of the cars of the same spec have the same alloys on it, some don't.

How do I know if they are factory fitted, and not fitted at the dealer when new, or since?

When insuring it, and they ask if any modifications have been made, I answer "Not to my knowledge" considering as a member of the general public, I am not expected to know the in depth production spec of every vehicle I buy, would they have to honour any cover if it later transpires that the wheels were fitted at the dealer?

Miffy84

Original Poster:

35 posts

226 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Kevin 996C4 said:
Just had an interesting conversation with elephant myself.

Had rear parking sensors fitted to my Jeep Cherokee so thought I should tell the insurer.

Elephant said - 'We do not payout for non-factory modifications'
I said - 'So the premium remains the same then'
Elephant said - 'It will increase by £xx'
I said - 'Why? surely the addition makes it less likely for accidental damage when reversing'
Elephant said - 'It is a modification'
I said - 'But one to reduce the likelihood of an accident whilst parking'
Elephant said - 'Statistics show people with rear parking sensors are more likely to hit soemthing when reversing because they believe the sensors'

At that point I gave up and challenged the amount of the increase (nearly 12% annually), elephant admitted 2/3rds of amount was administration fee and agreed to withdraw the fee part of the extra charge bringing it down to £6.99 from about £20.
That is truly astonishing. A big boo hiss to Elephant.

Smithy

WeirdNeville

6,050 posts

246 months

Wednesday 20th February 2008
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Buy they're all the same (insurers).

A relative of mine puts steelies with good nokian winter tyres on his 330D in winter. Makes the car far safer in poor conditions. His insurers charge him £80 for his dilligence in keeping himself and other road users safer.