Parking fine, but wheels on single yellow line
Discussion
I got a parking fine on my car, but whilst the picture Westminster sent me of my car from behind looks as though I am parked on double-yellows, my rear tyres were actually on a single-yellow line.
However, the boot of my car was over the double-yellows.
Do I have any chance of arguing this one?
However, the boot of my car was over the double-yellows.
Do I have any chance of arguing this one?
Edited by razbox on Wednesday 27th February 20:10
As long as your wheels are within a permitted area, it doesn't matter about the rest of the car
Best to take a photo at the exact same spot at a couple of different angles if possible and send it in with your appeal. Are there any marks or shops etc on their photo that would enable you to park the car at the right place?
Best to take a photo at the exact same spot at a couple of different angles if possible and send it in with your appeal. Are there any marks or shops etc on their photo that would enable you to park the car at the right place?
AsifG said:
As long as your wheels are within a permitted area, it doesn't matter about the rest of the car
Best to take a photo at the exact same spot at a couple of different angles if possible and send it in with your appeal. Are there any marks or shops etc on their photo that would enable you to park the car at the right place?
Do you have a reference about it having to be the wheels, I thought the whole vehicle had to be outside the restricted area. Best to take a photo at the exact same spot at a couple of different angles if possible and send it in with your appeal. Are there any marks or shops etc on their photo that would enable you to park the car at the right place?
Edited by herewego on Saturday 1st March 11:37
Its what I was told by a traffic warden a few years ago and have never had an issue.
Havent got time at the mo to do a full google search but the first one that comes up when searching for "parking wheels inside bay" is this comment
"The bays might be reserved for the disabled or for loading etc. Once you have decided that you are clear to park there the most pressing condition will be that cars parked in the bay must have all their wheels inside the parking bay and not over hang the bay by more than a foot (300mm)"
http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,7...
I know Hull isnt local to London, but I'm sure someone can find something similar....
Havent got time at the mo to do a full google search but the first one that comes up when searching for "parking wheels inside bay" is this comment
"The bays might be reserved for the disabled or for loading etc. Once you have decided that you are clear to park there the most pressing condition will be that cars parked in the bay must have all their wheels inside the parking bay and not over hang the bay by more than a foot (300mm)"
http://www.hullcc.gov.uk/portal/page?_pageid=221,7...
I know Hull isnt local to London, but I'm sure someone can find something similar....
Last one!
There is also advice on De Minimis rules that certainly the ALG has given [to London boroughs] in the past and footway parking is a case in point, where the advice we have given is that there should be a wheel - at least one wheel - wholly on the footway before a penalty charge is issued. Similarly, with parking outside the markings of a bay. There should be at least one wheel wholly outside the markings of a bay.
Taken from here:
http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wjk/parking/walkabout.htm...
There is also advice on De Minimis rules that certainly the ALG has given [to London boroughs] in the past and footway parking is a case in point, where the advice we have given is that there should be a wheel - at least one wheel - wholly on the footway before a penalty charge is issued. Similarly, with parking outside the markings of a bay. There should be at least one wheel wholly outside the markings of a bay.
Taken from here:
http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~wjk/parking/walkabout.htm...
It doesn't matter if they were single yellow or double yellow lines, it's what's displayed on the post that matters.
Basically, all yellow lines along the edge of the road mean Parking limitations. there are 3 types;
Single broken yellow line: Means, no parking LESS than the working day (can allow parking for limited times etc.or no parking for rush hour times etc)
Single unbroken yellow line: Means, No Parking, THE WORKING DAY (in that area)
Double unbroken yellow lines: Means, No Parking MORE THAN THE WORKING DAY, (often "at all times" but sometimes, not applicable at weekends, or not applicable at night time etc)
You MUST check on what's on the plate. Then it boiles down to how much of your vehicle is "inside" the area, and that's open to interpretation.
Similar rules apply to the "unloading/loading" limits, with 1 line across the kerb being "less than the working day", 2 lines "the working day" and 3 lines "more than the working day.
Once again, you need to check the plate.
Basically, all yellow lines along the edge of the road mean Parking limitations. there are 3 types;
Single broken yellow line: Means, no parking LESS than the working day (can allow parking for limited times etc.or no parking for rush hour times etc)
Single unbroken yellow line: Means, No Parking, THE WORKING DAY (in that area)
Double unbroken yellow lines: Means, No Parking MORE THAN THE WORKING DAY, (often "at all times" but sometimes, not applicable at weekends, or not applicable at night time etc)
You MUST check on what's on the plate. Then it boiles down to how much of your vehicle is "inside" the area, and that's open to interpretation.
Similar rules apply to the "unloading/loading" limits, with 1 line across the kerb being "less than the working day", 2 lines "the working day" and 3 lines "more than the working day.
Once again, you need to check the plate.
Edited by Gafferjim on Saturday 1st March 15:30
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