Speed Cameras dont generate revenue, Parking tikets do!!
Speed Cameras dont generate revenue, Parking tikets do!!
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davido140

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9,617 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Morning all,

Before I start... Im as guilty as the next guy of monaing and whining about speed cameras genrating revenue.

I live in a residents parking area and my visitors permit which requires reg no. and a date to be filled in every day regularly gets full and sent back to the council. I always manage to pickup a ticket or two (even with a note on the dashboard explaining) in the time it takes to get a new one back.

Last week I got two tickets, at 60 quid each, Monday and Sunday. I sat last night composing my letter and I noticed it was the same warden that gave me both (they have an individual reference number on the ticket).

The tickets are printed from a little machine that he carries and have sequential numbers.

Between the ticket on Monday and the one on Sunday he has issues over 600 other tickets!!!

Thats 36,000 in a week!!!!!! even if 20% are chaleneged and "let off" thats still nearly 29 grand!!!

Nice little earner for the council.

Jasandjules

72,684 posts

260 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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They both do.

Wasn't there a thread a while back about the fact that councils make more in fines (parking et al) than in collecting council tax?

JustinP1

13,364 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Jasandjules said:
They both do.

Wasn't there a thread a while back about the fact that councils make more in fines (parking et al) than in collecting council tax?
There was a nice bit about Warrington Borough Council in my local paper like this.

They were being slated while they booked a mobile ferris wheel for the town hall in December it made a loss of about £30,000. Their excuse was that December has inclement weather so no-one wanted to go on it... Nice foresight... The same month they had a paid for 'knees up' and released that they were several million over budget which would have to be paid for by council tax increases.

In their defence they proudly told the paper that despite being over budget they had greatly increased the amount of 'revenue generation' outside council tax to partly cover their overspending and 'knees up'.

Not a co-incidence that the town is now patrolled by an army of blue suited wardens...

herewego

8,814 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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davido140 said:
Morning all,

Before I start... Im as guilty as the next guy of monaing and whining about speed cameras genrating revenue.

I live in a residents parking area and my visitors permit which requires reg no. and a date to be filled in every day regularly gets full and sent back to the council. I always manage to pickup a ticket or two (even with a note on the dashboard explaining) in the time it takes to get a new one back.

Last week I got two tickets, at 60 quid each, Monday and Sunday. I sat last night composing my letter and I noticed it was the same warden that gave me both (they have an individual reference number on the ticket).

The tickets are printed from a little machine that he carries and have sequential numbers.

Between the ticket on Monday and the one on Sunday he has issues over 600 other tickets!!!

Thats 36,000 in a week!!!!!! even if 20% are chaleneged and "let off" thats still nearly 29 grand!!!

Nice little earner for the council.
I think if I was you I'd be more concerned about changing the permitting system so you don't get caught out. Sounds like there's something wrong there.

Hooli

32,278 posts

231 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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parking permits should be free to residents. its a ripoff you've paid for the council already & you sure dont get value for money. its stealth tax in my eyes.

herewego

8,814 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Hooli said:
parking permits should be free to residents. its a ripoff you've paid for the council already & you sure dont get value for money. its stealth tax in my eyes.
Not everybody has a car. Why should they pay?

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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herewego said:
Hooli said:
parking permits should be free to residents. its a ripoff you've paid for the council already & you sure dont get value for money. its stealth tax in my eyes.
Not everybody has a car. Why should they pay?
Why not - the motorist seems to massively subsidise most of the UK....

Derek Smith

50,021 posts

279 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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I'm in two minds about this. I've just been informed that my rates increase this year will be the lowest percentage for some time, more than a year evidently. Despite all the genius management looking after your interests rubbish it seems that parking revenue is the main reason.

I rarely go into Brighton but, when I do I use the town centre car parks. If others want to risk parking on and around yellow lines rather than in bays or car parks, then I'm happy for them to pay for the priviledge and in doing so cut my rates. I can understand and sympathise with the problems the local residents have and I'm firmly of the opinion that some degree of flexibility should be mandatory. However, road space is finite.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Derek Smith said:
I'm in two minds about this. I've just been informed that my rates increase this year will be the lowest percentage for some time, more than a year evidently.
Look at how much thay have risen over the past 10-11 years though...

Jasandjules

72,684 posts

260 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Derek Smith said:
I'm in two minds about this. I've just been informed that my rates increase this year will be the lowest percentage for some time, more than a year evidently. Despite all the genius management looking after your interests rubbish it seems that parking revenue is the main reason.
How much has your council tax risen between 1997 and 2007.. My guess is at least 100%...

tigger1

8,483 posts

252 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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Jasandjules said:
Derek Smith said:
I'm in two minds about this. I've just been informed that my rates increase this year will be the lowest percentage for some time, more than a year evidently. Despite all the genius management looking after your interests rubbish it seems that parking revenue is the main reason.
How much has your council tax risen between 1997 and 2007.. My guess is at least 100%...
100% increase in 10 years is about 8% per year isn't it? It's a lot, but it's also been a 10 years that has (I think) contained the inclusion of police and fire service charges in the council tax (or have they always been there?).

I'm less interested in how much is being charged, and more worried about how the fkers waste it all each year.

davido140

Original Poster:

9,617 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
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should point out, I dont actually pay the damn things! they go straight back to the council with a politely letter!

Im sure many people do.

With regard to the system being a load of rubbish, I agree, 1 Permanent permit and 1 visitors permit per household. There is no shortage of parking space on the road itself, more than enough space for 2 cars per household, yet they wont let me hand-in my visitors permit and have two permanent ones. (got no mates, nobody ever comes around! smile )

Woman at the council told me that it was a goverment guideline aimed at reducing car ownership?!?!?!