Police Harassment or more of the same please?
Police Harassment or more of the same please?
Author
Discussion

Mr_annie_vxr

Original Poster:

9,270 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Nice town has a problem with a small 'gang' of kids. They are dealt with but recently have bubbled up with a younger generation. A number of arrests for assaults and damage over a few days, all to random people, but gang are still about. Officers spend 6 hours on a shift targeting one of the gang, follow him round ( I mean about four steps behind him) move them on, follow to his mates houses, drive behind him and his gang to the point they leave him and he keeps running off but being found again and is almost in tears moaning about the Police Harassment and demanding officers numbers, ringing his mum and saying they will be complaining.

Now same again until he changes his conduct or evil Police Harassment?

Jasandjules

72,684 posts

260 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Wear

1. Black trousers
2. Black shirts and jackets
3. Black boots
4. Black full face balaclava.

Then, "lift" said scrote, take him out into the woods somewhere, and advise him he'll never see home again if he doesn't promise to behave from that point on.......And of course, make it clear that he will be watched, and if he steps outta line, back to the woods he'll come, one last time...

HTH


Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
How many officers are we talking here doing this for 6 hours?

And you've targetted one of a gang of children?

Does this strike you as good use of public money?

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
what has scroat done?

I agree with this to an extent.
The question is when do you stop doing it?

when is enough?

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Theoretically, this is getting close to harassment.

Pragmatically, assuming he has form, and provided this is relatively short term (i.e. one day), no issue here; it may make him think about his ongoing actions. Any longer, and I would have issues.

Choose the subject carefully...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
If this works on said scroat then OK but

When someone starts to complain about those noisey sports cars do we get followed around?


A danger of thin end of wedge if we are not careful

Jasandjules

72,684 posts

260 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
If that one is a ringleader... And IF you then move onto the next one in the list....... Then yes, I suspect that is a good use of resources.. And I bet the locals think so too.. Giving the little s**ts a taste of their own medicine is exactly what is needed.

Seesure

1,230 posts

270 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Harrass the little gits, that's fine.

Instead lets use more of the motorists billions that disappear in to the government coffers to fund more beat bobbies who should then target the little stes and hound them until they become human beings.

This country is too wrapped up in it's own a4se of political correctness and giving the effluent of humanity a place in society.


Mr_annie_vxr

Original Poster:

9,270 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Plotloss said:
How many officers are we talking here doing this for 6 hours?

And you've targetted one of a gang of children?

Does this strike you as good use of public money?
Say 2 officers. Aged 16-18 so not what I call children. Past week they have assaulted a disabled guy (for a laugh) shot someone with an air pistol, thrown a rock at somebodies head (person unknown to them) and done a robbery.

All within say within seven days and the local kids live on fear of the 'gang'.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Mr_annie_vxr said:
Plotloss said:
How many officers are we talking here doing this for 6 hours?

And you've targetted one of a gang of children?

Does this strike you as good use of public money?
Say 2 officers. Aged 16-18 so not what I call children. Past week they have assaulted a disabled guy (for a laugh) shot someone with an air pistol, thrown a rock at somebodies head (person unknown to them) and done a robbery.

All within say within seven days and the local kids live on fear of the 'gang'.
If you know all this, WHY THE fk are you only following them around?
They should be behind bars FFS

Mr_annie_vxr

Original Poster:

9,270 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
odyssey2200 said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
Plotloss said:
How many officers are we talking here doing this for 6 hours?

And you've targetted one of a gang of children?

Does this strike you as good use of public money?
Say 2 officers. Aged 16-18 so not what I call children. Past week they have assaulted a disabled guy (for a laugh) shot someone with an air pistol, thrown a rock at somebodies head (person unknown to them) and done a robbery.

All within say within seven days and the local kids live on fear of the 'gang'.
If you know all this, WHY THE fk are you only following them around?
They should be behind bars FFS
This is hypothetical.. but they have all been arrested for all offences but only charged for one on bail enquiries for the others (although all have done the offences in question)

Locked up... have you ay idea how hard it is to get an under 18 year old into prison?



odyssey2200

18,650 posts

240 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Mr_annie_vxr said:
odyssey2200 said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
Plotloss said:
How many officers are we talking here doing this for 6 hours?

And you've targetted one of a gang of children?

Does this strike you as good use of public money?
Say 2 officers. Aged 16-18 so not what I call children. Past week they have assaulted a disabled guy (for a laugh) shot someone with an air pistol, thrown a rock at somebodies head (person unknown to them) and done a robbery.

All within say within seven days and the local kids live on fear of the 'gang'.
If you know all this, WHY THE fk are you only following them around?
They should be behind bars FFS
This is hypothetical.. but they have all been arrested for all offences but only charged for one on bail enquiries for the others (although all have done the offences in question)

Locked up... have you ay idea how hard it is to get an under 18 year old into prison?
Then I refer you to aou learned friend in the second post in this thread!

HTH
thumbup

Lady Ginswigger

72 posts

225 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
I'm happy with it, but i suppose the anti-police will be jumping up and down about it turning in to a police state etc etc (fill in your own anti-police rantings) this country needs to get tought with anti-social behaviour, and that means targetting people BEFORE they do st

711

806 posts

256 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
More of the same please; some individuals are just plain feral, so staying on their case is justified I think.

As motorists, we're already being followed around by a plethora of civil service manned cameras, so the real scrotes might as well get the same treatment.

Besides, everyone appreciates a bit of personal service biggrin

Chrispy Porker

17,760 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
It's not that long ago that courts would not stipulate a doorstep condition on residential bail conditions, in case it infringed human rights.
Any bail conditions?

Greendubber

15,387 posts

234 months

Monday 3rd March 2008
quotequote all
Sounds like they need a CRASBO slapping on them.

Tie em dowm with one of them, I've done a few and they're excellent!. Free's much needed bobbies up too.

mark69sheer

3,906 posts

233 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
quotequote all
What a ferkin state to get into.

At what stage will he get a good hiding?

From his dad..who's he?
From the police....not with human rights..
From one of his victims...unlikely unless they want to be arrested..

so we have children making adults look stupid...

this is a very very st country.

I take it that despite all the vandalism and disruption somehow he hasn't actually done something he could be arrested for like walking 1 mph over the limit...


Baffled Spoon

5,260 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
quotequote all
mark69sheer said:
I take it that despite all the vandalism and disruption somehow he hasn't actually done something he could be arrested for like walking 1 mph over the limit...
Probably has commited an arrestable offence, but why arrest someone? Much better to follow the person round till they make a fineable offence yeshehe

MonkeyWrench

137 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
quotequote all
I applaud this. It's nice to see the police targeting the real problems for once - plus giving them a taste of their own medicine into the bargain. Deal with 'em now, before they move on to become murderers or whatever, not just petty thugs.

fluffnik

20,156 posts

258 months

Tuesday 4th March 2008
quotequote all
Jasandjules said:
Wear

1. Black trousers
2. Black shirts and jackets
3. Black boots
4. Black full face balaclava.

Then, "lift" said scrote, take him out into the woods somewhere, and advise him he'll never see home again if he doesn't promise to behave from that point on.......And of course, make it clear that he will be watched, and if he steps outta line, back to the woods he'll come, one last time...

HTH
9/10

A pig farm or flooded quarry are probably better than woods and black or chainsaw gloves should be worn. Use a black Mondeo without plates for bonus points.

Good effort! thumbup