UK Need to Borrow Maple Leaf from Montreal..
UK Need to Borrow Maple Leaf from Montreal..
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WildCat

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I sorry this in French.. I cannot find the Equivalent in English Canadian press yet. It will be somewhere though "for sure"


I think the saying would be

clapbowshoutWAY TO GO!

I have pasted up the best bits with summary translation. I think these significant.



http://www.messagerlachine.com/article-187638-Bila...


Canadian French article said:
Bilan positif de la sécurité routière et de la circulation en 2007 sur le territoire lachinois
par Robert Leduc
Voir tous les articles de Robert Leduc
Article mis en ligne le 26 février 2008 à 15:04
This stating that it about 2007 Montreal KSI stats for 2007. Reporter was Robert Leduc. Originally published on 26th Feb.

I think most would understand this bit anyway.. but since some have problems with my spelling.. I am condescending these types tongue out
But I admit it.. so not "insulting them"..

I post this link because in the fight against speed cams .. with alongside fight to get/drive up proper standards of common sense und improved skills. I think Canada who fired PC Gatso for "time wasting" longest time ago.. are showing COAST way ist best way forwards. wink I know some are a bit "funny" if they not understand or might think I post the French to show off. Not at all. English .. it not as "global" as some like to think in reality (hiding under tank) It just happen to be in French.. but I explain what it say.

Article start with the police/deputy governor confirming that KSI are LOWER than 2006. They are pleased with the positive trend.
I snipped this out. I try to concentrate on the best bits of this. wink

Canadian article said:
Tout comme pour l’ensemble de Montréal, le nombre total de collisions à Lachine a légèrement augmenté en 2007, passant de 666 à 686, mais on dénote une baisse importante du nombre de décès et de blessés graves. Ainsi, il n’y a eu aucune collision avec décès enregistrée en 2007, alors qu’en 2006, le nombre s’élevait à 4. De plus, le nombre de collisions avec blessés est à la baisse, avec 85 en 2007, comparativement à 110 en 2006. Il semble donc que les activités de prévention aient contribué à sensibiliser les usagers de la route et les piétons à l’importance de conduire prudemment et de respecter les règles.
This paragraph .. I think significant.

Montreal police are saying that they had more collisions.. up from 666 to 686 .. [i]but no deaths und the number of SI also reduced from 110 (2006) to 85 (2007)

It seems the preventative measures in place have contributed towards making road users and pedestrians aware of the importance of driving carefully und respecting the rules


2007 was Canada's "Safe driving Year too" wink

The authorities are rather chuffed... ( I snip this part too) wink
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Canadian article said:
. Cela confirme que notre Administration a eu raison de faire de la sécurité routière une priorité et que les usagers commencent à changer leur comportement et à se responsabiliser sur la route».
translate as ..


It confirms that the authority was right to make roaad safety a priority and all road users are beginning to change behaviour and become more responsible on the roads

Canadian article said:
À Montréal, en 2007, le nombre de collisions mortelles a diminué de 29,6 %, soit 18 décès de moins que l’année précédente. De plus, comparativement à 2006, les collisions avec blessés graves ont baissé de 28,6 % et celles avec blessés légers de 6,1 %. «La diminution importante des victimes en 2007, nous amène à conclure que nos stratégies d’intervention sont efficaces. Nous ciblons les comportements fautifs des usagers et intervenons en fonction des problématiques identifiées dans chacun des secteurs, selon le nombre et les causes de collisions, les types d’infractions et les plaintes reçues des citoyens », a déclaré Pierre-Paul Pichette.
The actual number of fatal accidents has declined by 29.6% in Montreal. . 18 less dead than in 2006. The SI also reduced in 2007 -confirming current policy working. We are aiming at understanding the road user errors.. causes of collisions. road engineering and what the citizens are complaining about


Ach.. if only this happen in UK. (I have another link to a Toulouse article which suggest France also working this line wink)


This next bit ist DYNAMITE of admission wink

Canadian article said:
Toutefois, à Montréal en 2007, 24 des 38 personnes décédées lors d'une collision étaient des piétons, soit 63,2 % des victimes de la route. Une étude approfondie démontre que 50 % des piétons, victimes de ces accidents, ne respectaient pas le Code de la sécurité routière. Comme l’a précisé monsieur Pichette, « Cette constatation nous démontre à quel point il est important pour le SPVM d’intensifier ses interventions en 2008 afin que les piétons modifient leurs comportements et réduisent ainsi les risques de subir un accident ».
All the same.. in Montreal 2007// 24 of the 38 dead as a result of a collision were pedestrians.. 63.2% of total. A detailed study show 50% of these did not respect the Highway Code M Pichette stress that this confirmed figure ist important .. und the authorities will intensify efforts throughout 2008 to get the pedestrians to change or modify behaviour and thus reduce risk of accident clap

bounceclapbow :smashy:

At last.. someone has the GUTS to say this. If you dare say this in politically incorrect UK .. you are "offensive" rolleyesranting


Canadian article said:
Monsieur Dauphin a aussi rappelé les nombreuses mesures mises en place par l’administration municipale pour favoriser la sécurité des usagers de la route. Entre autres exemples, monsieur Dauphin rappelle l’élargissement des trottoirs sur la rue Saint-Laurent, l’imposant programme de modernisation des feux de circulation et la sécurisation des intersections dangereuses.
They have re-engineered dangerous junctions.. widened footpaths too. I think UK can learn lots from Montreal clap

However..

canadian article said:
« Nous poursuivons par ailleurs nos démarches auprès du gouvernement du Québec pour que la Ville de Montréal puisse abaisser la vitesse en milieu municipal. Ainsi nous pourrions réduire davantage le bilan des victimes sur notre réseau routier », a-t-il précisé.
They plan to reduce some speed limits on some roads in the city centre itself. OK.. that ist OK. It the dense volume they look at.. phew. Please can we have this bloke as Transport wally over here? bow

Canadian article said:
Plusieurs campagnes de sécurité routière font partie de la stratégie globale mise de l’avant par le SPVM afin d’améliorer le bilan routier sur le territoire. Entre autres, en 2007, le SPVM a mené 284 opérations pour contrer l’alcool au volant, qui se sont soldées par 2024 arrestations, 10 942 opérations visant la réduction de la vitesse et 499 opérations de sensibilisation pour les piétons. Ces campagnes de prévention et d’intervention visent à inciter les personnes à adopter des comportements sécuritaires et à favoriser une cohabitation plus harmonieuse entre les différents usagers de la route, qu’ils soient cyclistes, piétons, automobilistes, camionneurs ou autres.
It seem they target all bad behaviour so who does it. yikes But they look to creating full harmony amongst road users.


I think I want to emigrate there now. We reject move to New England last year. But Canada .. it sound refreshing change here. I do love here in UK.. but .. this society? It change from that peculiarly British qaint gentility und patrician benign.. towards "ugly". rolleyes

French Canadian article said:
L’objectif du SPMV en sécurité routière et circulation est de préserver la sécurité des usagers de la route. C’est-à-dire, d’avoir un impact positif sur le bilan routier soit, de réduire le nombre de collisions causant des blessés et des morts.
They state objective to reduce incidents .. make things safe. I think they are applying COAST principles here wink

WildCat

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Ah.. it appear.. I do a post to bump it to attention which a bit naughty of me really laugh


But this what I was typing before I hit some rogue key .. making thing pear shape.

But no matter.. Am cool.. can laugh at myself. Have been in more scrapes than you have hot doughnuts :lol:


Back to topic.. I think this article from Canada show how proper training/enforcement work though. It far cry from what happen here.

On the safespeeed site .. I post link from a French regional with similar explanation to someone who agree there are problems but not see Paul's point. He was very gracious und so pleasant because he accepted the French view of full investigation of a potential blackspot was more correct und perhaps explain why they top the charts on KSI reduction as far as Europe concerned . which include EFTA Europe too. wink I posted that link with explanation to the person in the "Improve" section of Paul's site. Do go take gander at the conversations with this person who at least discuss decently und without bile too. He no troll there or here if he post here. he discuss properly .. without insult. clap So .. do take a peek-a-boo there too.


I will probably paste up my proper post for safespeed posters to discuss too.

I sorry it went pear shaped at first though.. I not know what happen. But .. I guess it prove accidents just happen wink It not tragic und we can at least all laugh at my genuinely very barking or mewing in feline howl post laugh
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Monday 3rd March 2008
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The first thing the Canadians need to do is teach their drivers how to drive around those strange looking things called corners biggrin

I was there a couple of years ago, and the number of times I was nearly clipped by oncoming pickup trucks turning in way too early and cutting the corner just started to get boring.

Still, nice to see a more common sense approach. Is it something about the French speaking countries where they don't take the camera crap lying down I wonder? <retires to safe distance/>

WildCat

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