TVP Speeding - workshop rather than points

[tvrforever]

We'll TVP BiB seem to be thinking along the right lines with regards to some speeding offences.

3 weeks ago I got 'caught' by a mobile camera doing 36 in a 30, the NIP arrived last week. I duly completed all the info, signed it and posted back recorded delivery.

This morning I get a 4 page letter offering me to trade my '£60 & 3 points' for '£65 and a 3hr "speed awareness scheme workshop"'.

To say I'm happy is an underestimate (clean licence right now but...).

So two things :-

1) Big thumbs up for TVP BiB
2) Anybody already been on the 'SAS' course that could give me any idea what to expect?

[tonyrec]

36 in a 30 ??

My god!

Well done for not getting the points but i would get there early as there may be about 300 attending (read. That limit is very low)

>> Edited by tonyrec on Thursday 31st July 18:22

[blueyes]

tvrforever said:

This morning I get a 4 page letter offering me to trade my '£60 & 3 points' for '£65 and a 3hr "speed awareness scheme workshop"'.

To me this shows:

1. All they are interested in is the money (they even want an extra fiver!). A speed awareness course isn't going to change the habit of a lifetime.

2. They are overwhelmed by the non-signed NIPs so this way they get the money and still look responsible.

Don't be a pussy! Send it back unsigned!

[Pies]

Well it is over the 10% + 2mph guideline or are you not following that guideline


RE the coutse friend of mine went on one his advice not mine,

Look intrested and partisapate(sp)or you still get the points

[Munta]

Sounds like a good idea to me. If a scrote can get community service for theft, why shouldn't otherwise law abiding drivers have this opportunity. I would back this 100% as it does show that the police do want to reduce accidents.

As for the £65 - well, i'm sure it costs a lot to put on courses like this.

[s2art]

And just what difference does taking the course make? Anyone done any analysis of before and after? Probably a complete waste of time.

[james_j]

Munta said "...I would back this 100% as it does show that the police do want to reduce accidents..."

I'm sure they do want to reduce accidents, but what has travelling at 6 mph over a certain speed limit got to do with creation of accidents? Or do you mean that the course will demonstrate better driving technique which is a better solution than just taking someone's money? I suppose it is better...in theory.

However, I'm not sure about the content of the course, but most drivers are only there because they have been caught driving over a speed limit, not necessarily because their driving skills are in need of brushing up. Anyway, I'd have thought that a racing drivers' school would be more useful if driving skill improvement was the intention.

[Size Nine Elm]

IIRC you only get offered this for 36 mph - 35 or under and you don't get done (10%+2), 37 or over and you get ticketed. This keep sthe numbers down and makes it an experiment - and they can gain the publicity of showing that eduction is a part of the speed campaign

I don't know how much you are allowed to 'discuss' the issue of speed in such a course though - can they kick you out, and then charge you anyway?

[5ltr-chim]

First criteria is you MUST currently have a clean license.

Other criteria are your speed the limit road type/location in force where you were caught.

70 Limits don't count so I'd guess it only applies to around town 30's etc.