Whats Wrong with Undertaking?
Discussion
Is this another thing written in the highway code that we obey without question, or conform to because its deemed illegal.
I followed a numpty for six miles along the M25 yesterday with long stretches of clear middle and even sometimes slow lane.
She was completely oblivious to me in her 4x4 SUV while having a conversation with her friend in the passenger seat.
Due to the fact she had 75mph dialed into her cruise control. The decision was either to law abide, or undertake.
Hands up who would have continued to sit behind her, and those who would have broken the speeding limit (because ALL overtaking has been illegal for a long time), and broken the law on undertaking.
And hands up any BIB who wouldn't instantly have pulled me for doing so?
I followed a numpty for six miles along the M25 yesterday with long stretches of clear middle and even sometimes slow lane.
She was completely oblivious to me in her 4x4 SUV while having a conversation with her friend in the passenger seat.
Due to the fact she had 75mph dialed into her cruise control. The decision was either to law abide, or undertake.
Hands up who would have continued to sit behind her, and those who would have broken the speeding limit (because ALL overtaking has been illegal for a long time), and broken the law on undertaking.
And hands up any BIB who wouldn't instantly have pulled me for doing so?
All those black suits and formaldehyde, nasty.
On a more serious note, if I am in lane 1 and there is a slower moving car in lane 2 that should really be in lane 1 then I have absolutely no quarms in sailing past on the left.
>> Edited by plotloss (moderator) on Thursday 14th August 09:48
On a more serious note, if I am in lane 1 and there is a slower moving car in lane 2 that should really be in lane 1 then I have absolutely no quarms in sailing past on the left.
>> Edited by plotloss (moderator) on Thursday 14th August 09:48
Nope, I would have slipped up inside her. Oh, sorry, I thought I was mungo for a second there! 
I agree with plotloss - I tend to go into the middle lane, and then, if possible, into the inside lane, cruise past, then rather ostentatiously indicate back into the middle lane/outside lane, when i come up to traffic to be overtaken.
Usually, the switch to middle lane gets their attention, and the switch to inside lane actually makes them think.
>> Edited by nubbin (moderator) on Thursday 14th August 09:52
I agree with plotloss - I tend to go into the middle lane, and then, if possible, into the inside lane, cruise past, then rather ostentatiously indicate back into the middle lane/outside lane, when i come up to traffic to be overtaken.
Usually, the switch to middle lane gets their attention, and the switch to inside lane actually makes them think.
>> Edited by nubbin (moderator) on Thursday 14th August 09:52
Julian64 said:
Due to the fact she had 75mph dialed into her cruise control. The decision was either to law abide, or undertake.
If she was doing 75mph, then if you overtook her in the outside or inside lane, you would still be commiting an offence - speeding.
As speeding is the most hideous crime of all mankind, you can't make it any worse by not following the highway code aswell.
Theres a big difference between the numpty that swerves in and out of lanes to 'undertake' other vehicles doing the speed limit or more (as is normally the case), as if hes being chased by the Police...........to the person who is sitting in lane 1 doing 70mph on the Motorway whilst lanes 2 and especially 3 are nose to tail with cars etc doing 60mph and undertaking that way.
I dont see any problem with that at all and in fact see it everday on the Motorways and have yet to pull people over for it.
Anyway, doesnt the law say that you can undertake when vehicles on your offside are going slower than you??
Obviously this only applies up to the speed limit.
I dont see any problem with that at all and in fact see it everday on the Motorways and have yet to pull people over for it.
Anyway, doesnt the law say that you can undertake when vehicles on your offside are going slower than you??
Obviously this only applies up to the speed limit.
julian64 said:
maybe I should have leant out of my window on the way past and nicked her wing mirror. Then if I had got cought by the BIB I could have pleaded for the lesser sentence of theft.
Or pulled alongside inside her, pressed the little button on the dashboard and outcomes the tyre slasher from the axle. Turn her car over, and pleaded for the lesser count of murder
What do you mean you don't have one?!
>> Edited by 206xsi on Thursday 14th August 10:01
Lane 1 is the place to be on the M3 most of the time... nuptimobiles cacking up lanes 2 & 3 ...
If you're not overtaking keep left.
If you keep left and then find that yuo can overtake, all well and good - you didn't move left to overtake, you moved left because you weren't overtaking.
by the way, and I'm under no illusion that this wil be the last time I say this:
OVERTAKING ON THE INSIDE IS NOT 'UNDERTAKING'
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=&t=14346
That is all.
If you're not overtaking keep left.
If you keep left and then find that yuo can overtake, all well and good - you didn't move left to overtake, you moved left because you weren't overtaking.
by the way, and I'm under no illusion that this wil be the last time I say this:
OVERTAKING ON THE INSIDE IS NOT 'UNDERTAKING'
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=23&h=&t=14346
That is all.
I don’t have a problem with passing people on the inside, if the other person was driving properly and moved back in I wouldn’t be able too.
Tuesday evening I was driving down the two lane part A2, a women in a VW estate pulled straight from the slip road into the outside lane even though there was nothing ahead for about a mile, I had moved to the outside so I could pass her but she pulled straight in front of me, after large amounts of flashing and using the horn I eventually passed her on the inside, she continued to stay in the ‘fast’ lane for as long as she was in my mirror (not that long).
Tuesday evening I was driving down the two lane part A2, a women in a VW estate pulled straight from the slip road into the outside lane even though there was nothing ahead for about a mile, I had moved to the outside so I could pass her but she pulled straight in front of me, after large amounts of flashing and using the horn I eventually passed her on the inside, she continued to stay in the ‘fast’ lane for as long as she was in my mirror (not that long
). Paul V said:
Tuesday evening I was driving down the two lane part A2, a women in a VW estate pulled straight from the slip road into the outside lane even though there was nothing ahead for about a mile
Why oh why oh why do some people do this?
I pulled onto the A4 yesterday afternoon at Hammersmith (flyover currently closed) woman in front of me, off the slip road straight into the outside lane at 25mph
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