New Speed Cameras on M25 by Heathrow

[jammiedodger26]

Noticed this morning on the drive to work new cameras on the gantrys:

Clockwise:

1. Just before j15
2. Between j13 and 14
3. Between j12 and 13

Anti-Clockwise:

1. Between j13 and 14
3. Between j12 and 13

Anyone know how long they've been up? are they activated yet? There didn't seem to be any cameras on the outside lanes...yet!

Cheers,

Jamie

[morfmedia]

Cheers for the heads up, try and let pocketgps know for their maps

[SNooPER]

I travel this route twice a day and noticed these cameras this morning, my detector also picked up highest level radar signal under each camera so I assume these are live and working!!

[goskins17]

All the cameras are live J17 to J10.


At set at ACPO guide lines

[Petemate]

SNooPER said:

I travel this route twice a day and noticed these cameras this morning, my detector also picked up highest level radar signal under each camera so I assume these are live and working!!

I too travel this route twice a day (well, 4 days on & 4 off) Unhappily I don't have a detector but happily I always stick RELIGIOUSLY to the limits on this stretch of the M25. My journey from Oxford to LHR via M40, M25 and a little bit of the M4 and thru Harmondsworth to my place of work (just off the A4 Bath road near the airport) takes me via some of the variable speed limit and many a time I have felt uncomfortably threatened by foreign trucks on my rear bumper but no way am I going to collect points thank you. I wonder how some car drivers get away with what I estimate as nearer to 90 mph on this stretch. Don't think I drive like a pussy - it only takes me approx 50 mins or less to get to or from work but these variable speed cameras surely must be live and I assume are digital with instant feed back to the ultimate brown envelope.
Pete

Edited by Petemate on Thursday 22 May 23:07

[cesc]

I hate the variable speed limits near Heathrow. That is all.

[fastfreddy]

goskins17 said:

All the cameras are live J17 to J10.


At set at ACPO guide lines

What cameras and guidelines are you referring to?

[supermono]

goskins17 said:

All the cameras are live J17 to J10.


At set at ACPO guide lines

No they are not. Not a single person has been done with those cameras despite them flashing occassionally.

SM

[gopher cough]

yep i've never ever heard of anyone getting nailed by a gantry cam on m25, not conclusive but i'd say they are not working?

[goskins17]

fastfreddy said:

goskins17 said:

All the cameras are live J17 to J10.


At set at ACPO guide lines

What cameras and guidelines are you referring to?

We had a memo at work (Metpol Traffic OCU)come round, stating the cameras on the gantries were all live and set at the ACPO speed enforcement guidelines.
Limit Fixed Penalty Summons
20 mph 25 mph 35 mph
30 mph 35 mph 50 mph
40 mph 46 mph 66 mph
50 mph 57 mph 76 mph
60 mph 68 mph 86 mph
70 mph 79 mph 96 mph
The list lines of figs should be under the summons heading.

[supermono]

goskins17 said:

We had a memo at work (Metpol Traffic OCU)come round, stating the cameras on the gantries were all live and set at the ACPO speed enforcement guidelines.

If this was true, we'd have a list of people by now contradicting my statement that nobody has been done. Let's sit back and wait for someone to chirp up. I've been in a car many times through there where the driver has no respect for those limits whatsoever, and he/she has never had a single ticket.

SM

[dcb]

supermono said:

I've been in a car many times through there where the driver has no respect for those limits whatsoever, and he/she has never had a single ticket.

+1.

If they issue tickets for 79 mph in a 70 mph, then
I'm a banana.

95 mph maybe, but not 79 mph, they'd be ticketing
most of West London, Berkshire and Surrey, to
say nothing of Bucks.

[SS HSV]

I pass through these sections everyday as I commute near J4A and I dont care what people say about them not being a threat. Do you really want to take the chance? Er I think not.

What kind of fool argues about their functionality? Surely its more benificial to expect them to work rather than not? <--- Sarcy smily added!

[Diablo SVTT]

Likewise, I've driven through these junctions, and if the cameras were working, I'd have got a ban by now (going back 2-3 years).

[supermono]

dcb said:

If they issue tickets for 79 mph in a 70 mph, then
I'm a banana.

95 mph maybe,

Nope someone reliable told me they were worried about being flashed with just over 100 showing. They didn't hear anything, though that was 2 years ago so things could have changed.

But I recall this same APCO bs being bandied at that time too.

SM

[supermono]

SS HSV said:

I pass through these sections everyday as I commute near J4A and I dont care what people say about them not being a threat. Do you really want to take the chance? Er I think not.

What kind of fool argues about their functionality? Surely its more benificial to expect them to work rather than not? <--- Sarcy smily added!

You say that but if you're wafting happily along in traffic at 85/90 like always, it's hard to cause nuisance to everyone by slowing down for no good reason. Plus you don't know what kind of numpty might be following behind. We've all seen the way a compression wave perculates back through motorway traffic sometimes making cars slow far more than the originator did and a lot of cars back. Blimey someone could conceivably even be killed if there was an accident.

We've all seen the videos from speed camera vans showing the accidents they cause.

SM

[JulianHJ]

There are now average speed cameras round that section, right?

[Ebo100]

Living up North I have only used this bit of M25 a couple of times and each time the traffic was moving at a snails pace. Does the traffic actually get chance to move at a speed to require speed cameras?

[SS HSV]

supermono said:

SS HSV said:

I pass through these sections everyday as I commute near J4A and I dont care what people say about them not being a threat. Do you really want to take the chance? Er I think not.

What kind of fool argues about their functionality? Surely its more benificial to expect them to work rather than not? <--- Sarcy smily added!

You say that but if you're wafting happily along in traffic at 85/90 like always, it's hard to cause nuisance to everyone by slowing down for no good reason.

Getting nicked for speeding is no good reason?? Far better to use caution through that section for a couple of miles and adjust to a more appropriate speed afterwards.

supermono said:

Plus you don't know what kind of numpty might be following behind.

Thats what your mirrors, your experience and Road Craft are there for. If someone's tailgating just move over and let them past. Trying to wind them up and staying infront of them is just making you a bigger target for them.

supermono said:

We've all seen the way a compression wave perculates back through motorway traffic sometimes making cars slow far more than the originator did and a lot of cars back. Blimey someone could conceivably even be killed if there was an accident.

We've all seen the videos from speed camera vans showing the accidents they cause.

SM

Agreed but thats only because people are following too close using 'autopilot' rather than 'wafting' along at a speed and innapropriate distance that allows them and the person behind them to slow down when approaching a hazard - be that any hazard but including a speed camera - the biggest hazard of all.

[supermono]

SS HSV said:

supermono said:

Plus you don't know what kind of numpty might be following behind.

Thats what your mirrors, your experience and Road Craft are there for.

Not immediately behind. But you get my drift.

SM