Using "think of the children" as an arguemnt...

[gh0st]

I am so sick and tired of this.

Letter to my local paper from some Kingstiegnton resident was blasting the editor of the paper for stating he had been stung by a scamera trap at 35 in a 30.

Cant be arsed to write the full details but the big point that really me off was..

"Think of all the people that are killed by speeding drivers, and all you can think about is your £60 and 3 points. Have some compassion for those families..."

If I was one of those "families" who had had a member killed by a DANGEROUS driver who was using speed inappropriatly I would be furious at some government fuelled nobody using my dead family member as an excuse to rally his cause.

Sick fks.

I know of a lot of people who have been hit by cars and GUESS WHAT? Most were either drunk or stoned or not paying attention all of which SPEED CAMERAS DO NOT SEE.



Angry now.

Grrrr.

[_Al_]

Agreed 100%

It's totally unjustified, yet it's also institutionalised.

The Notts council used the death of a child as justification for their SPECS system. Was he killed by a speeder?

NO!


He was killed by a drunk!

I bet the family felt great about that.


"we're using your sons death as an excuse to make a fortune"

[V12Bob]

What about the Footballer who was found guilty of doing 135mph whilst twice the DD limit, he got a £1000 fine and 100 hrs of community service for speeding, and a two year ban for DD.

He should have been locked up for six months and Banned for life stupid T**t

[outlaw]

V12Bob said:

What about the Footballer who was found guilty of doing 135mph whilst twice the DD limit, he got a £1000 fine and 100 hrs of community service for speeding, and a two year ban for DD. He should have been locked up for six months and Banned for life stupid T**t

why did he crash or kill anyone ?

[deltaf]

DD isnt the same as speeding. DD is far more likely to end in tears.

[james_j]

...and ITV the other day used the case of a lorry driver killing a cyclist, by turning across in front of her, to imply that more speed scameras are required! Bl00dy pathetic, how stupid can people be?

[regmolehusband]

Write to your newspaper about it - it's even more satisfying than letting off steam on here!

[Sgt^Roc]

I herd the Plods in 1 force had a road full of accidents that there seemly and rightly put up some enforcement as they so glibly put it, but here is the catch the road is so busy that 98% of the accidents are low speed rear enders in traffic. so now the cameras will catch plenty of drivers using the road at its safetest while being totally usless during the busy period now is that not revenue collection or what?

[Tafia]

Brunstrom did the same thing when he chastised the retired bank manager for 39 in a 30.

"A child was killed at this location recently, that's why we are here saving lives", then

"A child was killed at this location a couple of years ago"

Locals said it was several years ago and when asked by a Daily Post reporter what the cause of the death was, Brunstrom was forced to admit that the accident was not speed related. Misleading the public?

Some might think so.

[zumbruk]

Anyone using a "What about the childr-u-u-u-u-u-u-n" argument obviously has no rational arguments. Sadly, the argument is very effective with the numpty general public. The Dunblane Snowdrop (?) campaign was excellent evidence of that.

[Don]

zumbruk said:

Anyone using a "What about the childr-u-u-u-u-u-u-n" argument obviously has no rational arguments. Sadly, the argument is very effective with the numpty general public. The Dunblane Snowdrop (?) campaign was excellent evidence of that.

Quite correct. If they wanted to ban driving through school playgrounds at high speed whilst drunk I think "Think of the Children" would be a reasonable argument.

But how many kids have you seen playing on the motorway?

And there are ways to make areas where children are safer with no requirement for GATSOs. Proper crossings, for example, with railings to stop 'em from crossing elsewhere etc etc etc.

[grahambell]

Typical of the current 'all accidents are the fault of the car driver' crap is a piece in my local paper on Friday.

Quote: "Drivers are being WARNED (my caps) to be extra careful when youngsters go back to school. The county council wants people to drive safely and cut casualties. More than 130 children die on the roads every year and more than 4,500 are seriously injured, often while walking or cycling to school."

What it doesn't say of course is how many of those accidents are actually down to the children. And of course there is NOTHING urging them to be 'extra careful' on their way to school.

Just one more thing the anti-scamera petition will be addressing.

[deltaf]

Agreed. The "think of the children" bullshit suddenly hits a big brick wall (no pun) when the following statement is applied; " If theyre not in the road, i wont hit them ".