RE: Road Deaths up in London
Monday 1st September 2003
Road Deaths up in London
70 people killed in the last three months alone
Discussion
Probably as a result of the Congestion Charging! Now there is less traffic holding everyone up the remaining traffic can travel faster.
Last time I was in london - crossing the roads was a nightmare, you really took your life in your hands. Now the cars are actually moving it must be near impossible to cross safely.
Last time I was in london - crossing the roads was a nightmare, you really took your life in your hands. Now the cars are actually moving it must be near impossible to cross safely.
It was only a matter of time......taking Trafpol off duties to drive robbery cars for the CID was never a good idea.
At last, hopefully they will learn that more than mere 'lip service' is needed and that more Trafpol on the roads prosecuting people that deserve to be prosecuted is the only answer.
At last, hopefully they will learn that more than mere 'lip service' is needed and that more Trafpol on the roads prosecuting people that deserve to be prosecuted is the only answer.
It also has to be said that pedestrians in London constantly astonish me.
Whenever I visit to go out for the evening the walk back to the hotel is invariably filled with drunken nutters falling into the road, wandering across the road not looking stepping into the road to get round the pedestrian in front without checking behind - you name it. These people should their WALKING LICENCEs taken away...
On my last visit I saw a tipsy lass still dressed in her business suit stagger into the road and walk along for twenty yards completely oblivious to potential traffic (and therefore danger). There was a near miss and she wasn't happy....but whose fault was it?
London has a lot of pedestrian deaths because pedestrians and motorists aren't properly separated...and when they aren't seperated neither seems to respect each other...
Whenever I visit to go out for the evening the walk back to the hotel is invariably filled with drunken nutters falling into the road, wandering across the road not looking stepping into the road to get round the pedestrian in front without checking behind - you name it. These people should their WALKING LICENCEs taken away...
On my last visit I saw a tipsy lass still dressed in her business suit stagger into the road and walk along for twenty yards completely oblivious to potential traffic (and therefore danger). There was a near miss and she wasn't happy....but whose fault was it?
London has a lot of pedestrian deaths because pedestrians and motorists aren't properly separated...and when they aren't seperated neither seems to respect each other...
One wonders how many pedestrians and cyclists involved in vehicle accidents have been drinking ... and how many are breathalysed.
In Cheshire many moons ago, I was the first on the scene at an RTA involving a car and a cyclist (the cyclist had been proceeding the wrong way up a one-way street!). The cyclist was uninjured but (and maybe because) he was as drunk as a skunk (apologies to skunk-lovers). The BiB arrived and practically the first thing they did was breathalyse the driver of the car. When I asked whether they were also going to breathalyse the cyclist, their reaction was to ask me whether I had been drinking and to get another breathalyser kit. Only when I mentioned their Chief Super's name did they decide that discretion might be the better part ...
Streaky
BTW - I had NOT been drinking, and anyway I was not driving as I had only recently recovered from an ankle injury. But their reaction spoke volumes
- S
In Cheshire many moons ago, I was the first on the scene at an RTA involving a car and a cyclist (the cyclist had been proceeding the wrong way up a one-way street!). The cyclist was uninjured but (and maybe because) he was as drunk as a skunk (apologies to skunk-lovers). The BiB arrived and practically the first thing they did was breathalyse the driver of the car. When I asked whether they were also going to breathalyse the cyclist, their reaction was to ask me whether I had been drinking and to get another breathalyser kit. Only when I mentioned their Chief Super's name did they decide that discretion might be the better part ...
Streaky
BTW - I had NOT been drinking, and anyway I was not driving as I had only recently recovered from an ankle injury. But their reaction spoke volumes
- SI wonder how many of those 70 people fall into the "totally pissed and step in front of a bus" category. Front page story the other day was "20% increase in the death of young women involved in RTAs under the influence of drink"
Stats are meaningless without some indication of circumstance
Stats are meaningless without some indication of circumstance
This is after they increase the time for pedestrians to cross at traffic lights... there's no common sense answer to this and similar road safety issues!
Unfortunately some of the answers are highly counterintuitive.
Imagine trying to explain to a typical middle class overprotective politically savvy white mother that the speed bumps outside her house were to be removed because they we having no statistically demonstrable effect on accidents involving children in her area while they were clearly having an effect on the ambulance response times in the wider area and were provably delaying emergency travel by over two minutes and this was in turn causing a 10 % drop in the successful emergency coronary interventions i.e. causing countable deaths. Do you think that said mum would then change her mind and start a local campaign to have the bumps removed.
Michael McDowell
Ps
Unfortunately some of the answers are highly counterintuitive.
Imagine trying to explain to a typical middle class overprotective politically savvy white mother that the speed bumps outside her house were to be removed because they we having no statistically demonstrable effect on accidents involving children in her area while they were clearly having an effect on the ambulance response times in the wider area and were provably delaying emergency travel by over two minutes and this was in turn causing a 10 % drop in the successful emergency coronary interventions i.e. causing countable deaths. Do you think that said mum would then change her mind and start a local campaign to have the bumps removed.
Michael McDowell
Ps
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff