Reversing into an unlit car
Reversing into an unlit car
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waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

285 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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Just back from a walk with the missus and dog in Bledlow.

By the time we got back to the car it was dark. I reversed the car out slowly and then heard that horrible sound when you know you've gone into something, but i couldn't see what it was.

I swung the car round to see a car parked up on the verge/road with a nice new dent in the driver's door

I gave my details to the lady of the house (the car was her daughters) but i was wondering where do i stand on this. i.e. reversing into an unlit car on a country road with no lighting in near pitch darkness?

Do i have any legs to stand on here?



wanty1974

3,704 posts

268 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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Surely your reversing lights lit up her door before you hit it?

waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

285 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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nope fraid not, didn't see it at all. I thought reversing lights were for others to see you reversing not actually for seeing your way. Correct me if i'm wrong.. and i'm sure someone will!

>> Edited by waylander on Tuesday 2nd September 22:10

superlightr

12,920 posts

283 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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I thought that if the car was parked on a road in a 40mph limit or more it must have lights on. If it was in a 30 limit then it doesnt need to.

If it was on a verge , dunno

waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

285 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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,not sure. It's a country road that goes past a row of houses, church, pub and back to a country road again. however no signs for 30mph and no streetlights.

superlightr

12,920 posts

283 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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maybe a NSL then. Have a look at the highway code. Im sure you may have mitigation if there were no lights on the other car.

waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

285 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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cheers superlightr, will check up that bit.

outlaw

1,893 posts

286 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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dont be a w*nker pay the guy im shaw you would want yours fixed if he had hit your car.

>> Edited by outlaw on Tuesday 2nd September 22:50

CraigAlsop

1,991 posts

288 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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I'm with outlaw (although I might have put it more politely )

waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

285 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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Her car's a company car so it'll probably be going through our insurance companies. I just don't like the idea of an at fault accident with 11 years of NCB - it'll put the insurance up.

if i was being a w*nker i would have just driven off as there were no witnesses. Would you have done the same outlaw?? (or just driven off?)


outlaw

1,893 posts

286 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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hey but man you done well 11 ncb

but now you had one

the car want moving man it was parked. and you backed into no one wants to use there ncb

but you can hardly say it was even the tinyest bit not your fault m8.

and as for leaving parking lighs on.

how often do you leave em on

or who want a flat bat in the morning if you did.

if you dont want to lose you ncb you should have handed them a handfull of cash to fix it


would i have drove off
i wouldend have i wouldent have hit in the first place



>> Edited by outlaw on Tuesday 2nd September 23:40

waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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outlaw, i'm trying to find out whether an unlit car parked half on/off a near pitch dark road is even partially to blame.

I know it's mostly my fault, i was the one who did the reversing, no problem with that or the insurance. Just wanted to know how i stood - obviously with you, it's with a parrot

outlaw

1,893 posts

286 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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from what i know 100 persent to blame m8
as the high way code is not law its only a guide

pluss even if you were to shift some of the blame your still going to get hit by insharance even if it gots as far a 50/50

so im afrade m8 if you aint got a proteted ncb
then its gone m8

outlaw

1,893 posts

286 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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waylander said:
nope fraid not, didn't see it at all. I thought reversing lights were for others to see you reversing not actually for seeing your way. Correct me if i'm wrong.. and i'm sure someone will!

>> Edited by waylander on Tuesday 2nd September 22:10


there usefule for both

Buffalo

5,472 posts

274 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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I don't think its a requirement to have your lights on when parked up although i recall it being in the HC (yonks since i read that ).

Your reversing lights are for both seeing and to be seen although some cars' are unusefully crap thats for sure....

Anyway would the car having its sidelights on have made any difference?? You said you backed into their door... Ain't no lights there!

Might just be a case of your fault IMO.

Also would you loose the full 11 years NCB?? I would have a word with insurance company...

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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outlaw said:
[snip] and as for leaving parking lighs on.

how often do you leave em on

or who want a flat bat in the morning if you did.

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If leaving your parking lights on all night flattens the battery ... you need a new battery.

4 bulbs X 21 watts / 12 volts = 7 amps - a servicable and charged battery should be easily able to deliver this over a period of 12 hours.

waylander

Original Poster:

35 posts

285 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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if there had been a parking light on we would have seen it and wouldn't have driven into it
I guess i'll have to wait for the insurance companies to sort it out.


rich 36

13,739 posts

286 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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bite the bullet and pay its easier!

wanty1974

3,704 posts

268 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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You may be interested to know that Which magazine this month goes into depth about car insurance. Apparently, if you have a healthy NCD and have an accident, even if it isn't protected, you will still only lose a percentage of your discount. Some insurers will only dock you 5% (Liverpool Victoria) others up to 25% (Abbey National). Worth checking it out.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

275 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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streaky said:

outlaw said:
[snip] and as for leaving parking lighs on.

how often do you leave em on

or who want a flat bat in the morning if you did.

[snip]

If leaving your parking lights on all night flattens the battery ... you need a new battery.

4 bulbs X 21 watts / 12 volts = 7 amps - a servicable and charged battery should be easily able to deliver this over a period of 12 hours.


1) Sidelights are not 21 watts, they are 5 watts.

2) Ignoring the incorrect current draw, very few modern car batteries would deliver 7 amps for 12 hours, that's a rated capacity of at least 84 Amp/hours. The chances of having enough charge left to start the eninge is remote to put it mildly.