Excuse me Mr Criminal, can my dog bite you?
Excuse me Mr Criminal, can my dog bite you?
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streaky

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19,311 posts

275 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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You couldn't make it up, could you?

Following on from North Wales Police muzzling their police dogs in case they bit someone (a fleeing suspect perhaps?), now APCO have advised police dog handlers to consider whether criminals could be frightened of dogs before using them in raids or searches.

Streaky

Apologies if a repost, but the search engine didn't find anything - S

chr15b

3,467 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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streaky said:
You couldn't make it up, could you?

Following on from North Wales Police muzzling their police dogs in case they bit someone (a fleeing suspect perhaps?), now APCO have advised police dog handlers to consider whether criminals could be frightened of dogs before using them in raids or searches.

Streaky

Apologies if a repost, but the search engine didn't find anything - S
time to leave the country me thinks - this really takes the biscuit!

it's quite simple - if you break the law of the land things might happen that you dont like! - if you cant do the time......

BertBert

21,051 posts

237 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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chr15b said:
it's quite simple - if you break the law of the land things might happen that you dont like!
What like speeding tickets?
Bert

chr15b

3,467 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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BertBert said:
chr15b said:
it's quite simple - if you break the law of the land things might happen that you dont like!
What like speeding tickets?
Bert
exactly, and parking tickets too

Jonny671

29,827 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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And apparently, the suspects could be allergic to the dog so they should be careful about when they use the dogs.

What sorry? PC gone mad!

chr15b

3,467 posts

216 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Jonny671 said:
And apparently, the suspects could be allergic to the dog so they should be careful about when they use the dogs.

What sorry? PC gone mad!
this will probably upset some peoplewink

i think it's mad when nuts are banned from a flight because of one 'allergic' person - this situation isnt mad - it's fking crazy!

Gilbertd

744 posts

268 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2008
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Similar to a comment to me from a US Air Force pilot who had only recently been posted to the UK. I'm really surprised your police don't carry guns, what do they do if they are chasing somebody? Shout, "Stop or I'll shout stop again"?

SwissCamel

352 posts

218 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Slightly unrelated - I heard a while back that if someone broke into your house and your dog attacked them, that no charges could be brought against you as you're not obliged to control your dog on your property? Can anyone clear this up?

Bing o

15,184 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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chr15b said:
Jonny671 said:
And apparently, the suspects could be allergic to the dog so they should be careful about when they use the dogs.

What sorry? PC gone mad!
this will probably upset some peoplewink

i think it's mad when nuts are banned from a flight because of one 'allergic' person - this situation isnt mad - it's fking crazy!
Yeah, I mean someone dying on a plane is so un-PC right?

C0ck.

twistedsanity

493 posts

264 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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You must display a "beware of dog" sign at the entrances to your property or the burglar can sue you if he gets bitten(as can anybody), put a sign up and they all become a cheap meal for poochie

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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TVR Moneypit said:
... the burgular ended up with a very nasty limp.
A very nasty limp what?wink - Streaky

G C

491 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Who care's if they don't like being bitten by a dog, or being chased by them or if they are allergic to them!

If you don't like it, then simply don't do it in the first place!

I think we should get more police dogs, they sure as hell scare the st out of me and im a goodie!

beer

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

286 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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twistedsanity said:
You must display a "beware of dog" sign at the entrances to your property or the burglar can sue you if he gets bitten(as can anybody), put a sign up and they all become a cheap meal for poochie
I think if you display a sign it's seen as admitting liability ie you're aware that your dog could be dangerous. So, I'm not sure if the sign is the best thing to do.

john_r

8,354 posts

297 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Boosted LS1 said:
twistedsanity said:
You must display a "beware of dog" sign at the entrances to your property or the burglar can sue you if he gets bitten(as can anybody), put a sign up and they all become a cheap meal for poochie
I think if you display a sign it's seen as admitting liability ie you're aware that your dog could be dangerous. So, I'm not sure if the sign is the best thing to do.
Not sure it's a legal requirement to display a warning if you have a dog - I've heard yes and no. BUT if you don't and someone gets bitten then they can sue you, however if you have a 'Beware of the Dog' sign they would have less of a case...

okgo

41,780 posts

224 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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I always thought that most of the dogs the police have are for effect.

Most of them don't do anything but bark and look scary, the ones that sniff stuff out are good.

But you see them being towed around by these women officers in towns, and its just ridiculous.

We dont live in the stone age, why are you weilding that wolf at me, all I did was piss in an alley..

Chrispy Porker

17,625 posts

254 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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[quote=okgo]I always thought that most of the dogs the police have are for effect.

Most of them don't do anything but bark and look scary,


I wouldn't rely on that theory too much if I were you.

okgo

41,780 posts

224 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Chrispy Porker said:
okgo said:
I always thought that most of the dogs the police have are for effect.

Most of them don't do anything but bark and look scary,


I wouldn't rely on that theory too much if I were you.
I have grown up with alsations are rotweilers, and have had my fair share of scrapes with them.

More the point I was getting at is, that they can't really use them. If I got bitten by one of their dogs for something trivial in the eyes of the law I would be sueing.

Mg6b

6,649 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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okgo said:
Chrispy Porker said:
okgo said:
I always thought that most of the dogs the police have are for effect.

Most of them don't do anything but bark and look scary,


I wouldn't rely on that theory too much if I were you.
I have grown up with alsations are rotweilers, and have had my fair share of scrapes with them.
More the point I was getting at is, that they can't really use them. If I got bitten by one of their dogs for something trivial in the eyes of the law I would be sueing.
All GP and tactical dogs are trained to defend themselves, their handlers and to stop and detain people who run away. They do that by biting them! If the person stops prior to the dog reaching them and in effect surrender. The dog will not make contact but will maintain a guard of the suspect by cirlcling and barking at them until the handler arrives to take over.

Many people get bitten. Many sue, some are successful.
Regardless of the fact you may get a payout, being bitten is not nice. It hurts and can have very serious personal consequences if you resist the dog when its on!

Edited by Mg6b on Wednesday 23 July 12:10

okgo

41,780 posts

224 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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Mg6b said:
okgo said:
Chrispy Porker said:
okgo said:
I always thought that most of the dogs the police have are for effect.

Most of them don't do anything but bark and look scary,


I wouldn't rely on that theory too much if I were you.
I have grown up with alsations are rotweilers, and have had my fair share of scrapes with them.
More the point I was getting at is, that they can't really use them. If I got bitten by one of their dogs for something trivial in the eyes of the law I would be sueing.
All GP and tactical dogs are trained to defend themselves, their handlers and to stop and detain people who run away. They do that by biting them! If the person stops prior to the dog reaching them and in effect surrender. The dog will not make contact but will maintain a guard of the suspect by cirlcling and barking at them until the handler arrives to take over.

Many people get bitten. Many sue, some are successful.
Regardless of the fact you may get a payout, being bitten is not nice. It hurts and can have very serious personal consequences if you resist the dog when its on!

Edited by Mg6b on Wednesday 23 July 12:10
As I mentioned I have grown up with them, and have been bitten by an alsation also, it was obviously put down shortly after said attack. But I was saying the way they are totted around towns when the cops come in to get drunk people its amazing they bother. The handler is there for no reason with a dog that is useless.

Chrispy Porker

17,625 posts

254 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2008
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BAHN-STORMA said:
Mg6b said:
can have very serious personal consequences if you resist the dog when its on!
'Personal'... Ouch....
Quite
I interviewed a car thief , when he came back from hospital, who had had a portion of his right bicep bitten off and eaten by a police dog.
The dog made a full recovery though.