Roadcraft - Do you know what it is?
Roadcraft - Do you know what it is?
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tonyrec

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3,984 posts

275 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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I seem to be on a bit of a roll with trying (and succeeding) to get people involved in these threads, so heres another.

Ive just found a 1960 copy of Roadcraft and apart from old pictures, its exactly the same content as a recent copy that i have.
The principles of Driving are still the same.

How many people have read/got a personal copy of Roadcraft, or indeed have never heard of it?

sheepy

3,164 posts

269 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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I've got a copy. Bought it just after passing my test. A friendly copper suggested I get a copy and read it "before you kill yourself". (Only time I've ever been stopped, 70 in a 40 limit in my old chevette!!).

Read it a few times, and only really understood it when I did a police driving course via the IAM

Sheepy

v12bob

652 posts

268 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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I have a copy on my desk, I lend it to new employees as preparation for their Defensive Driver Training.

tonyrec

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3,984 posts

275 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Do you think that it helped....?

sheepy

3,164 posts

269 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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tonyrec said:
Do you think that it helped....?


Oh yes. I think it should be given to all drivers who pass their test as a "OK, you've reached the minimum standard, now read this and try to improve". Mind you I think that everyone should be made to do advanced trainging with either IAM or ROSPA.

After passing my IAM test, my wife commented that I was the only person who she felt safe in a car with (she doesn't drive). She also said that she hadn't felt safe before I undertook the advanced training. Her point was I used to drive too fast and a bit reckless. Now I just drive fast!

Sheepy

rsvnigel

600 posts

286 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Yep, it sits on the shelf next to my copy of twist of the wrist, tbh I found the style too dry, and it wasn't until I spent a couple of days training with an retired traffic officer that it all clicked.

David A

3,704 posts

271 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Got it read it, passed my IAM and got Gold

Should really have another lesson and/or retest as its been 2.5 years

Laters

v12bob

652 posts

268 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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[quote=tonyrec]Do you think that it helped....?

Undoubtedly helps those who are interested in improving their driving, it never ceases to amaze me, the number of people driving around who don,t know what the NSL is.

Incidentaly, what is your view of "Gears to Go-Brakes to slow"?

Bob

T4R

461 posts

269 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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I bought my copy a few years ago, after I started to really think about my driving, concerned about how others would view it from inside the car, those in or on other vehicles and pedestrians. I think I've become a safer, more observent driver and hopefully more considerate to boot. It's a very good aide memoire and I thoroughly recommend it as essential for anyone who has just passed their test, or believes they are anything less than perfect driver.

I really want to do a good course preferably with a BiB or GiB, not wishing to be sexist.

Tonyrec - these threads of yours are great - keep 'em comming

Tivster

359 posts

270 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Great for old cars, where their stability meant that changing gear and turning corners at the same time were no no's. Still good advice in terms of observation of the road ahead.
Sad bar steward that I am, I bought my own copy before going on my driving course... and still have it!!


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tony_996hasgone

3,160 posts

278 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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v12bob said:

Incidentaly, what is your view of "Gears to Go-Brakes to slow"?



My 2p worth as an "untrained" driver. I always go down the gear-box as I slow (to use engine braking), and it's a hard habit to get out of. I was consequently pulled up on it regularly on my Ride-Drive. My excuse was that I didn't want to be doing 15mph in 4th as the engine was nearly stalling, and didn't want to ride the clutch (as was suggested to me by the RD chap).

>> Edited by tony_996hasgone on Tuesday 9th September 11:14

TJMurphy

239 posts

283 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Have the car one. Read it. Passed IAM test. Undertook various other car training courses.
Just bought the motorbike one too (mid-life crisis approaching!) but haven't read it yet.

And yes, it definitely helps. But to get most benefit has to be done in conjunction with in-car training.

jj.

574 posts

290 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Yep - had mine a while. I also got my renewal through from the IAM this year, congratulating me on being a member for 10 yrs. It was one line, that said just that. I thought for 10 yrs membership I'd get a new badge for the car or different membership card, (different colour or something) so people knew I've been a member for 10 yrs. But no, nothing.

I will dust off the Roadcraft again soon, and am also planning on doing a refresher drive in the near future. But every time I come back from a quick blast, I always convince myself that I don't need it...
jj

Trefor

14,709 posts

303 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Yep, I've got a copy from when I did my IAM recently. Interesting read, but I'm sure many people would never dream of looking at such a publication.

drover

189 posts

269 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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v12bob said:
Undoubtedly helps those who are interested in improving their driving, it never ceases to amaze me, the number of people driving around who don,t know what the NSL is.


I think it's a shame people don't know about the NSL, and any additional publicity is always welcome.
For those who are still in the dark:

www.skyleague.com


Needed to get that out of my system in preparation for a sensible answer...
RoadCraft is a valuable resource for general driving, that you can reffer back to time an time again. Well worth the purchase.

Don

28,378 posts

304 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Of course I have a copy! I've even seen the video...

its......excruciating.....

outlaw

1,893 posts

286 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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im too tight to bye it still looking for the PDF

did have a copy years ago use a lot of it with some additions of my own. all the time.

Must have helped a fair bit.

Never once got court for driving and retired with a 0 catch score.

got thing i retired when I did there want too many choppers about in my days.





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>> Edited by outlaw on Monday 8th September 18:30

drover

189 posts

269 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Don said:
Of course I have a copy! I've even seen the video...

its......excruciating.....


Do you know if it's out on DVD yet?
I thought it was a great film, "chasing the limit!"
Re-apply that to a straight road instead of a corner.

Don

28,378 posts

304 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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drover said:

Do you know if it's out on DVD yet?

It isn't according to the IAM magazine. Damn annoying as I would actually buy it. It's excruciating as its modelled on the worst sort of documentary style to give it a "human interest" angle - personally I wouldn't have bothered with that it wastes time and doesn't make it any more watchable. But its still informative and therefore worth the bother.

Psychobert

6,316 posts

276 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Yup, got it. Excellent book. For me it definately helped to do a day with RideDrive 1st as that showed me thigs that the book had talked about but I'd found difficult to visualise.

Both definately worth the money..