55mph Limit proposed for M1
Discussion
Caught this on the local news last night.
Rotheram Council want a blanket 55 limit on the M1 in South Yorkshire 'to cut pollution' They are expected to approve this motion at a meeting (tonight?) nad press the Highways Agency for action.
The councillor stated that 55mph is the optimum speed to cut pollution
Is this another 1/3rd lie? Or is there any truth in it.
God help us all if this becomes a new trick - 55 on the M1 and I will fall asleep!
Rotheram Council want a blanket 55 limit on the M1 in South Yorkshire 'to cut pollution' They are expected to approve this motion at a meeting (tonight?) nad press the Highways Agency for action.
The councillor stated that 55mph is the optimum speed to cut pollution
Is this another 1/3rd lie? Or is there any truth in it.
God help us all if this becomes a new trick - 55 on the M1 and I will fall asleep!
Well 56mph is the most fuel effecient speed apparently (not that I have ever understood why) so less fuel would be used.
This policy fails to take into account that modern cars actually clean the air as they move through it though.
If they really are concerned about the environment they should slaughter all town councillors as they are the biggest source of hot air for no good reason in the UK.
This policy fails to take into account that modern cars actually clean the air as they move through it though.
If they really are concerned about the environment they should slaughter all town councillors as they are the biggest source of hot air for no good reason in the UK.
Plotloss plotloss said:
Well 56mph is the most fuel effecient speed apparently (not that I have ever understood why) so less fuel would be used.
I used to think that too, until someone told me that it isn't at all, it's just the speed that all car manufacturers benchmark their emissions output at.
plotloss said:
Well 56mph is the most fuel effecient speed apparently (not that I have ever understood why) so less fuel would be used.
Never understood this one. It would necessarily depend on engine characteristics and gearing selected, efficiency of CATs etc etc
To cut pollution on the M1, the only solution is to ban HGVs...
Is that true Bonce? If so it makes perfect sense I've never understood the 56mph thing, not ever.
With regards to the HGV's I remember seeing a thing about Stobarts where they have a satellite controlled tracking thing that reports their speed at all times. They drive at 50mph because if they didnt (in addition to the law etc) it would cost an extra £1 million a year in fuel!
With regards to the HGV's I remember seeing a thing about Stobarts where they have a satellite controlled tracking thing that reports their speed at all times. They drive at 50mph because if they didnt (in addition to the law etc) it would cost an extra £1 million a year in fuel!
As I read more of this kind of crap it makes me more determined to drive everywhere on B-roads.
Drive at 56 in a boring clump of motoring hell
or
40, 50, 60, 70, brake brake brake, into 2nd, round bend, 3rd, 4th......brake, brake, back into 2nd.........
from now on I'm boycotting motorways for B-roads, that should help the goverments pollution schemes
Drive at 56 in a boring clump of motoring hell
or
40, 50, 60, 70, brake brake brake, into 2nd, round bend, 3rd, 4th......brake, brake, back into 2nd.........
from now on I'm boycotting motorways for B-roads, that should help the goverments pollution schemes
ashes said:
Caught this on the local news last night.
Rotheram Council want a blanket 55 limit on the M1 in South Yorkshire 'to cut pollution' They are expected to approve this motion at a meeting (tonight?) nad press the Highways Agency for action.
The councillor stated that 55mph is the optimum speed to cut pollution
Is this another 1/3rd lie? Or is there any truth in it.
God help us all if this becomes a new trick - 55 on the M1 and I will fall asleep!
From the Council Website:
www.rotherham.gov.uk/graphics/YourCouncil/Press+Releases/_ReportonAirPollutioninRotherham.htm
Report On Air Pollution In Rotherham
12/09/2003
A Scrutiny Working Group set up by Rotherham Council to investigate public concerns about the effects of air pollution on health is to ask the Government to rethink plans to widen the M1 in South Yorkshire.
The Pollution Working Group?s report, published today (Friday), supports a recommendation to introduce a 55 mile per hour speed limit zone in the M1 corridor to reduce the effect of traffic fumes on health.
Another key recommendation is for the Primary Care Trust to assess the impact upon public health of poor air quality by closely monitoring data such as hospital admissions.
Nitrogen dioxide pollution from the M1 has placed Rotherham, along with 100 other towns in the UK, on a list that are unlikely to meet the Government?s clean air objectives by 2005. The problem areas identified in Rotherham include an area adjacent to the M1 and part of Brampton Bierlow which have been declared Air Quality Management Action Areas (AQMAs).
The Council Member Scrutiny Working Group was set up in January 2003 following concerns raised by members of the public at a meeting of Rother Valley West Area Assembly. The scrutiny review found that although research has established that high and persistent levels of poor air quality can affect health, more local analysis is needed to establish the full impact in the Rotherham area.
The key recommendations of the Working Group to the Council are:
*To ask the Department for Transport and Highways Agency to assess the impact on air quality before it considers proposals to widen the M1
*To support proposals to introduce a 55 mile per hour speed limit zone should research demonstrate this measure will lead to a substantial improvement in air quality
*To recognise that an efficient, reliable and accessible public transport system is the best way to reduce air pollution, and to support the extension of Supertram.
*That Rotherham Primary Care Trust be asked to consider undertaking an analysis of the two Rotherham AQMA?s to examine the impact on health caused by pollution from traffic.
The scrutiny review also recognises the good work that Rotherham Council's Environmental Health Services are doing to monitor air quality in the borough including major roads and road junctions. In the case of the M1 corridor, a Clean Air Partnership has drawn up an Air Quality Action Plan that includes a package of measures that are supported by the Working Group.
The Chairman of the Pollution Working Group, Councillor Reg Littleboy, said: ?The scrutiny review has provided an opportunity to assess the scale of the air pollution problem in Rotherham and the potential ways of addressing this.
?The Council recognises that air quality is an important issue for both peoples? health and generally for the economic and social well-being of the area. Given that the M1 is the major source of pollution the review calls for more research on the effect of proposals to widen the M1 and how a 55 mph zone could impact on air pollution.?
Notes for Editors
For more information please contact John Karanec, Scrutiny Advisor, on 01709 822765
For further information please contact: Dave Clarke on 01709 822732 dave-pressoffice.clarke@rotherham.gov.uk
AQMAs are Air Quality Management Areas. Since 1997 local authorities in the UK have been carrying out a review and assessment of air quality in their area. The aim of the review is to make sure that the national air quality objectives will be achieved. If a local authority finds any places where the objectives are not likely to be achieved, it must declare an Air Quality Management Area there. This area could be just one or two streets, or it could be much bigger.
www.rotherham.gov.uk/graphics/YourCouncil/Press+Releases/_ReportonAirPollutioninRotherham.htm
Report On Air Pollution In Rotherham
12/09/2003
A Scrutiny Working Group set up by Rotherham Council to investigate public concerns about the effects of air pollution on health is to ask the Government to rethink plans to widen the M1 in South Yorkshire.
The Pollution Working Group?s report, published today (Friday), supports a recommendation to introduce a 55 mile per hour speed limit zone in the M1 corridor to reduce the effect of traffic fumes on health.
Another key recommendation is for the Primary Care Trust to assess the impact upon public health of poor air quality by closely monitoring data such as hospital admissions.
Nitrogen dioxide pollution from the M1 has placed Rotherham, along with 100 other towns in the UK, on a list that are unlikely to meet the Government?s clean air objectives by 2005. The problem areas identified in Rotherham include an area adjacent to the M1 and part of Brampton Bierlow which have been declared Air Quality Management Action Areas (AQMAs).
The Council Member Scrutiny Working Group was set up in January 2003 following concerns raised by members of the public at a meeting of Rother Valley West Area Assembly. The scrutiny review found that although research has established that high and persistent levels of poor air quality can affect health, more local analysis is needed to establish the full impact in the Rotherham area.
The key recommendations of the Working Group to the Council are:
*To ask the Department for Transport and Highways Agency to assess the impact on air quality before it considers proposals to widen the M1
*To support proposals to introduce a 55 mile per hour speed limit zone should research demonstrate this measure will lead to a substantial improvement in air quality
*To recognise that an efficient, reliable and accessible public transport system is the best way to reduce air pollution, and to support the extension of Supertram.
*That Rotherham Primary Care Trust be asked to consider undertaking an analysis of the two Rotherham AQMA?s to examine the impact on health caused by pollution from traffic.
The scrutiny review also recognises the good work that Rotherham Council's Environmental Health Services are doing to monitor air quality in the borough including major roads and road junctions. In the case of the M1 corridor, a Clean Air Partnership has drawn up an Air Quality Action Plan that includes a package of measures that are supported by the Working Group.
The Chairman of the Pollution Working Group, Councillor Reg Littleboy, said: ?The scrutiny review has provided an opportunity to assess the scale of the air pollution problem in Rotherham and the potential ways of addressing this.
?The Council recognises that air quality is an important issue for both peoples? health and generally for the economic and social well-being of the area. Given that the M1 is the major source of pollution the review calls for more research on the effect of proposals to widen the M1 and how a 55 mph zone could impact on air pollution.?
Notes for Editors
For more information please contact John Karanec, Scrutiny Advisor, on 01709 822765
For further information please contact: Dave Clarke on 01709 822732 dave-pressoffice.clarke@rotherham.gov.uk
AQMAs are Air Quality Management Areas. Since 1997 local authorities in the UK have been carrying out a review and assessment of air quality in their area. The aim of the review is to make sure that the national air quality objectives will be achieved. If a local authority finds any places where the objectives are not likely to be achieved, it must declare an Air Quality Management Area there. This area could be just one or two streets, or it could be much bigger.
Bonce said:
Is that true Bonce? If so it makes perfect sense I've never understood the 56mph thing, not ever.
As far as I know, yes but I'm prepared to stand corrected 'cos I can't remember who told me - it might've been a bloke down the pub!
All vehicles will have an optimum speed. It will depend on gearing, CD, torque curve and tyres. Bit like stopping distances it will vary wildley, from model to model
report thingy said:
To recognise that an efficient, reliable and accessible public transport system is the best way to reduce air pollution
eh?
How about reducing congestion and sorting out roadworks quicker?
How about getting rid of ALL the 20 year old buses that pour out diesel fumes all day long
How about actually stopping clapped out old cars and removing from the road when the emmissions fail?
How about stoping Newt Man from setting traffic lights in London to stay green for 7 seconds to let people cross
I'm sure there is more.......
nonegreen said:
plotloss said:
Is that true Bonce? If so it makes perfect sense I've never understood the 56mph thing, not ever.
As far as I know, yes but I'm prepared to stand corrected 'cos I can't remember who told me - it might've been a bloke down the pub!
All vehicles will have an optimum speed. It will depend on gearing, CD, torque curve and tyres. Bit like stopping distances it will vary wildley, from model to model
But surely if the industry standard is at 56MPH then most will tune their cars to be the most efficient at that speed to give good results?
OK, picking recommendations from the report:
*To ask the Department for Transport and Highways Agency to assess the impact on air quality before it considers proposals to widen the M1
*To support proposals to introduce a 55 mile per hour speed limit zone should research demonstrate this measure will lead to a substantial improvement in air quality
*To recognise that an efficient, reliable and accessible public transport system is the best way to reduce air pollution, and to support the extension of Supertram.
*That Rotherham Primary Care Trust be asked to consider undertaking an analysis of the two Rotherham AQMA?s to examine the impact on health caused by pollution from traffic.
Humm! Doubt these will happen in short order. And how will they conduct research to "demonstrate [introducing a 55mph limit] will lead to a substantial improvement in air quality " (my emphasis)? Whatever, it will be another government fiddle!
Streaky
*To ask the Department for Transport and Highways Agency to assess the impact on air quality before it considers proposals to widen the M1
*To support proposals to introduce a 55 mile per hour speed limit zone should research demonstrate this measure will lead to a substantial improvement in air quality
*To recognise that an efficient, reliable and accessible public transport system is the best way to reduce air pollution, and to support the extension of Supertram.
*That Rotherham Primary Care Trust be asked to consider undertaking an analysis of the two Rotherham AQMA?s to examine the impact on health caused by pollution from traffic.
Humm! Doubt these will happen in short order. And how will they conduct research to "demonstrate [introducing a 55mph limit] will lead to a substantial improvement in air quality " (my emphasis)? Whatever, it will be another government fiddle!
Streaky
Is this not what the US government did years ago for similar reasons? Strange how they are now relaxing this in most states
Presumably the US have seen the error of their ways while the N*bheads that 'run' this country are taking not the slightest notice of common sense/lessons learnt, so intent are they of
ing the whole place up for everyone - all in the interests of our safety of course & absolutely nothing to do with installing Gatso's/Specs on the '55' section to earn £millions from the good people of the country. 
Presumably the US have seen the error of their ways while the N*bheads that 'run' this country are taking not the slightest notice of common sense/lessons learnt, so intent are they of
ing the whole place up for everyone - all in the interests of our safety of course & absolutely nothing to do with installing Gatso's/Specs on the '55' section to earn £millions from the good people of the country. Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff