parking in turning circle

[sagt550]

What would you lot do here ? I live in a cul-de-sac and half way down the road is a turning point as there is no other way of turning around easily without going up someones drive. Anyway, one of my neighbours uses this turning circle every night/weekend to park 2 lwb transit vans (commercial vehicles). Consequently it renders the turning circle useless.

I think he has being doing this for a number of years and I know it annoys a few of my other neighbours too but as with all of these things no-one has said anything to him.

Is there anything that can be done ? I read somewhere that I could speak to the council and get double yellow lines painted there ???

[TPAC]

sagt550 said:

What would you lot do here ? I live in a cul-de-sac and half way down the road is a turning point as there is no other way of turning around easily without going up someones drive. Anyway, one of my neighbours uses this turning circle every night/weekend to park 2 lwb transit vans (commercial vehicles). Consequently it renders the turning circle useless.

I think he has being doing this for a number of years and I know it annoys a few of my other neighbours too but as with all of these things no-one has said anything to him.

Is there anything that can be done ? I read somewhere that I could speak to the council and get double yellow lines painted there ???

Quiet word to the fire service. They are the ones that these features are really there for. I've seen them express their displeasure to folks like your neighbour in no uncertain terms.

[EU_Foreigner]

Is there alternative parking for the vans? If you say something to him, that will be the first thing he will ask you: "Where else am I supposed to park them" type of response, so be prepared to provide an alternative solution if it exists.

If there is an alternative, I would speak to him directly to suggest that. However, the reason that your neighbours have not spoken to him may suggest that he might not be the type of person to accept those type of discussions and they wish to keep the peace.

Going to council - that might upset the neighbours as well ...

How is a turning circle defined by the way? Is it a natural turning circle which is only an extension of the normal running of the road, or are there signs at all? If there is nothing, he is completely in his rights to park there.

[Red Firecracker]

Have something similar in the turning circle at the end of my cul-de-sac. There are normally 2 or 3 cars parked in the circle making it tedious to say the least to turn around.

I followed one guy up towards the circle once (accepted technique is first car drives in to the left, reverses to the right, other car drives in to the left, first car drives out) who just stopped, got out and locked the car. Was most indignant when I asked him to move his car.

People do not know how to treat these areas nowadays, especially with the increase in vehicles fighting for parking spaces and this on a road where 40% of houses have off road parking for at least one car. None of them seem to make the leap of thinking to park one car on the off road and their other car in front of their drop curb.

And then you get the new guy opposite who has 3 cars, all on road, who actually shuffles them to create the perfect gaps even when there are cars waiting to get past. I think his rather large neighbour is thinking of having words!

rant mode off

[Steak & Cheese]

sagt550 said:

What would you lot do here ? I live in a cul-de-sac and half way down the road is a turning point as there is no other way of turning around easily without going up someones drive. Anyway, one of my neighbours uses this turning circle every night/weekend to park 2 lwb transit vans (commercial vehicles). Consequently it renders the turning circle useless.

I think he has being doing this for a number of years and I know it annoys a few of my other neighbours too but as with all of these things no-one has said anything to him.

Is there anything that can be done ? I read somewhere that I could speak to the council and get double yellow lines painted there ???

stop moaning, he's not doing you any harm

[TPAC]

[quote=Steak & Cheese]
stop moaning, he's not doing you any harm
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And although I said what I said, if he were to have to park his vans somewhere else they might well be at more risk of theft/vandalism. Which would be a bit of a worry for him. Not so good to think that you had contributed to that, really.
Ignore it.

Edited by TPAC on Saturday 6th September 12:37

[Red Firecracker]

TPAC said:

And although I said what I said, if he were to have to park his vans somewhere else they might well be at more risk of theft/vandalism. Which would be a bit of a worry for him. Not so good to think that you had contributed to that, really.

Ignore it.

Well, that's a tiny bit contradictory, isn't it?

It's either a real problem for emergency services to use the road or it isn't. It is not the OP's concern if inconsiderate parking is highlighted to the perpetrator and then something happens to that persons vehicle when they are parked somewhere more considerate?

As you, I have seen the extents the fire service will go to to free their appliance/s from tricky situations from inconsiderate and or illegal parking. Not something done lightly, but necessary when they have to get to the current/another shout.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the OP shouldn't feel any remorse if after following official channels the vehicles are required to be parked elsewhere and unconnected events result in damage to them. Best bet is to have a chat with the bloke first though.

[esselte]

Are you allowed to park commercial vehicles in a residential area?

[Cat]

esselte said:

Are you allowed to park commercial vehicles in a residential area?

Yep as long as they are not LGVs

Cat

[EmmaP]

I'd have a quiet word with your neighbour, pointing out the issue that you have and asking if he could park elsewhere. The council usually requests that you speak with neighbours first before taking action (when necessary). People are generally quite decent if you speak with them in a reasonable manner. Unless he is breaking a law I'd have thought it was a civil matter.

[TPAC]

Red Firecracker said:

TPAC said:

And although I said what I said, if he were to have to park his vans somewhere else they might well be at more risk of theft/vandalism. Which would be a bit of a worry for him. Not so good to think that you had contributed to that, really.

Ignore it.

Well, that's a tiny bit contradictory, isn't it?

It's either a real problem for emergency services to use the road or it isn't. It is not the OP's concern if inconsiderate parking is highlighted to the perpetrator and then something happens to that persons vehicle when they are parked somewhere more considerate?

As you, I have seen the extents the fire service will go to to free their appliance/s from tricky situations from inconsiderate and or illegal parking. Not something done lightly, but necessary when they have to get to the current/another shout.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the OP shouldn't feel any remorse if after following official channels the vehicles are required to be parked elsewhere and unconnected events result in damage to them. Best bet is to have a chat with the bloke first though.

Yes, I was contradicting myself. I said so. I realised that sometimes knowing what can be done, is not the be all and end all. You can all too easily be a busybody, and it wouldn't feel good. Not after he's lived there a long time and everyone has been tolerant.

[GreenV8S]

EU_Foreigner said:

are there signs at all? If there is nothing, he is completely in his rights to park there.

As far as I understand it, there is no legal right whatsoever to park in the street. The council may not bother to enforce the law, they may even put meters in and charge you for their permission to park there, but it's under their control and you don't have any right to park there.

[sagt550]

I agree, it is all too easy to be a busybody and to be honest that is why I have been wondering what to do about it, if anything. To be honest it just one of those things that riles me every now and again when I need to turn around in the road because of one of my neighbours selfish behaviour - and which ever way you look at it, it is selfish.

However, is it really worth a big row and load of hassle, probably not. My solution to this problem is in the rare case when I need to use the turning circle (and it is blocked by his vans) I simply use his driveway instead (which incidentally is normally empty). Hopefully one day he will complain and I can explain to him my motivation for doing it, if not, I have a new turning circle!

[EU_Foreigner]

problem solved