Truvello cameras ..... Info required
Discussion
Just spent a weekend in Manchester visiting my folks, where in the last 18 months the councils have basically gone speed camera krazy!!!! (around Glossop, Stalybridge and Ashton U lyne for anyone who knows that area).
A couple of times I saw the front-facing cameras too late (cameras were painted dark blue - and 2 incidents were at about 4am!!!). However, I didn't notice a flash - does anyone know if Truvello cameras flash or not ....?? I could possibly be studying train timetables for the next 6 months if they succesfully prosecute ...???
A couple of times I saw the front-facing cameras too late (cameras were painted dark blue - and 2 incidents were at about 4am!!!). However, I didn't notice a flash - does anyone know if Truvello cameras flash or not ....?? I could possibly be studying train timetables for the next 6 months if they succesfully prosecute ...???
You can see the flash on Truvelos. I have seen lots of them go off – fortunately not at me. My brother was caught on one earlier this year and he saw it flash. He got the photos and they have a pinky-red tinge to them. I think perhaps the flash has more IR light in it than normal to aid photographing number plates at night, but it also contains plenty of visible light too.
206xsi said:
Anyone seen a photo from a Truvello? Surely it must be harder to id the driver?
Well - earlier this year I wrote an email to the pepipo website about the front facing cameras - and although the idea of the front facing cameras is to identify the driver, no-one in the UK had been prosecuted based on their identity from a front facing photo. So basically if you do get caught on them i would suspect the first thing you get is the NIP form which asks you to id the driver at the time - just the same as the Gatso's
If they are the ones on the A57/A628 I think they are just warning - did a matrix sign light up and tell you you were naughty?
All the ones I have seen are green in this area, blue is for trafficmaster.
BTW my Road Angel ignores all but one of these (A57 just before the M67)
Fingers crossed for you
All the ones I have seen are green in this area, blue is for trafficmaster.
BTW my Road Angel ignores all but one of these (A57 just before the M67)
Fingers crossed for you
Mad-chest-oh council: you will rarely encounter a more wretched hive of round be-spectacled, Doc M'd, crop haired lesbianism.
These fascist utopians recently closed down Deansgate to allow a wonderful, car free expression of stilt walking, merry juggling, firy sword swallowing and other mid-15th century style entertainments to engulf this retailing metropolis.
The proliferation of Truffels or whatever they're called is no less than I'd expect from these man-hating fungoids.
These fascist utopians recently closed down Deansgate to allow a wonderful, car free expression of stilt walking, merry juggling, firy sword swallowing and other mid-15th century style entertainments to engulf this retailing metropolis.
The proliferation of Truffels or whatever they're called is no less than I'd expect from these man-hating fungoids.
ashes said:
If they are the ones on the A57/A628 I think they are just warning - did a matrix sign light up and tell you you were naughty?
All the ones I have seen are green in this area, blue is for trafficmaster.
BTW my Road Angel ignores all but one of these (A57 just before the M67)
Fingers crossed for you
Thaks for the fingers crossed.
Yes - one of them was on A57, near the Viaduct, round a corner and that was green!!! Another was further into Ashon U lyne, and it had a matrix board on it.
The third incident was on the A627 and it was painted dark blue but was a truvello (saw the three little lines on the road after I had passed the trap, and the camera was quite large and had a lense eye and a 'flash' eye). It Looked fairly new (i.e. no-one had vandalised it yet ;-) so it may not have been in operation - but that said I am not a regular there so I couldn't say for sure.
To me this sums up the good reasoning behind making cameras visible. If it was visible I would have checked my speed and slowed down to avoid getting caught, thereby removing the risk of an incident. Because its hidden I just drove through - but no adjustment to speed - so the risk of causing an accident is still there in fact probably worse because as soon as I saw the camera my first reaction is to check my speed - so I'm not concentration 100% on the road at that point .... because of the camera!!
A lot of the cameras round london (not all I hasten to add) are actually well placed. If you look at their location you'll see a 100 or so yards away a reason why you should be slowing down (junction thats sometimes gets v. busy, difficult to see turnings etc.), but the cameras I saw at the weekend were to my mind blatent revenue builders!!!
Truvelo's do flash - I got caught a couple of years ago on the A14 near Cambridge by one. It's a red flash - presumably as they use IR film and in order not to blind the driver resulting in lots of court cases for resultant accidents. Still, I nearly drove off the road in surprise. If you didn't see a flash then I suspect there was no camera inside and you've got no need to worry. 
Anyone driving in the Tameside area (A57 in G.Manchester nuclear free zone
) the black 'cameras' ,mainly with dot matrix boards, are fakes.
BTW It was one of these fakes that the kid in the 'scooby' was avoiding when he lost control and killed himself and a passenger a short time back
(on the A57 uphill stretch towards the M67 coming out of Derbyshire. They were not known to be fake then. These are 'safety cameras'?)
) the black 'cameras' ,mainly with dot matrix boards, are fakes. BTW It was one of these fakes that the kid in the 'scooby' was avoiding when he lost control and killed himself and a passenger a short time back
(on the A57 uphill stretch towards the M67 coming out of Derbyshire. They were not known to be fake then. These are 'safety cameras'?)
206xsi said:
Anyone seen a photo from a Truvello? Surely it must be harder to id the driver?
On my brother’s Truvelo photos it is completely impossible to ID the driver. You can see there are two people in the car but they look like a couple of blobs. The flash seems to pick out the number plate very clearly but the rest of the photo is crap.
sandman said:The ABD website lists three cameras on the A627:
... Yes - one of them was on A57, near the Viaduct, round a corner and that was green!!! Another was further into Ashon U lyne, and it had a matrix board on it.
The third incident was on the A627 and it was painted dark blue but was a truvello (saw the three little lines on the road after I had passed the trap, and the camera was quite large and had a lense eye and a 'flash' eye). It Looked fairly new (i.e. no-one had vandalised it yet ;-) so it may not have been in operation - but that said I am not a regular there so I couldn't say for sure. ...
"A627 Dukinfield S Gatso on King Street (A627) travelling towards Hyde, just past Town Hall
A627 Oldham on the A627 Oldham Road just past the border of Oldham and Ashton u Lyne heading towards Ashton, just after the dip near Medival Pharmaceuticals
A627 Bardsley A627 Oldham road at Bardsley heading from Oldham towards Ashton under Lyne just as you come past Smokies Hotel up the brew."
This might be out of date however.
If Truvelos themselves (as opposed to their posts) are being painted blue it suggests this is to confuse them with the Traffic Master system cameras ... either to reinforce some beliefs that TMs are speed cameras or (more sinisterly) to make people believe the Truvelos are TMs.
Here's a Truvelo:
But you'll have to sniff out your own photo of a TM, 'cos I couldn't find a decent one on the Internet.
Streaky
Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff