Mobile Phone law?
Discussion
What will the deal with phones whilst driving after December?
Not that I advocate this, as I know that it is extremely dangerous to hold a phone whilst driving, but I do sometimes use the handsfree kit, when I'm lost and getting directions.
What will the punishment be? Points? Fine?
Cheers
Chris
Not that I advocate this, as I know that it is extremely dangerous to hold a phone whilst driving, but I do sometimes use the handsfree kit, when I'm lost and getting directions.
What will the punishment be? Points? Fine?
Cheers
Chris
I like the fact that they admit there are no stats to back the argument that phones make any difference to accident stats and it all pure conjecture....
I'd be interested in the difference in accidents between
a) stuffing it whilst using a moby
b) stuffing it trying to make up time when your late cos you carnt let them know your running a bit late.
I also dont understand why it needs specific legislation. Poor driving is poor driving with or without a phone and there are laws to cope with this.
Soon well get the well i dont understand how i had an accident as i was obeying the speed limit and not using a phone....
I'd be interested in the difference in accidents between
a) stuffing it whilst using a moby
b) stuffing it trying to make up time when your late cos you carnt let them know your running a bit late.
I also dont understand why it needs specific legislation. Poor driving is poor driving with or without a phone and there are laws to cope with this.
Soon well get the well i dont understand how i had an accident as i was obeying the speed limit and not using a phone....
I think the most distracting use of a mobile when driving is TEXTING. Even though I do it myself sometimes.
There was a case in my local paper where a woman was killed after her car went off the road. The police found her phone frozen on a text message, and suspect this was the cause of the fatal crash.
There was a case in my local paper where a woman was killed after her car went off the road. The police found her phone frozen on a text message, and suspect this was the cause of the fatal crash.
jmorgan said:
Link 1
Link 2
Para 2 of the second link makes interesting reading.
And the third paragraph:
"... some 70% of drivers consider it unacceptable to use a mobile phone while driving. However, many drivers also admit to using them in some circumstances. Only about a quarter of drivers say they would never answer a call while driving. A recent survey also sought views on whether there should be a ban on drivers using hand-held mobile phones while driving. Nearly 90% agreed that there should be a law to ban such use."
So, 70% say it is unacceptable, but abourt 25% would answer a call.
A 'recent survey' - was that of drivers I wonder.
Marvelous things statistics, third in the list after lies and damned lies!
Paragraph 4 of the first link contains this confusing pair of statements:
"However, we accept the view that it is unnecessary
for a vehicle to be parked with the engine switched off in order to avoid prosecution. Under existing
law a person may be regarded as "driving" a vehicle while the engine is running and the vehicle is
stationary. We consider this satisfactory for the purposes of this offence and will not therefore
include a new definition of "driving" in the regulation."
So which is it then?
>> Edited by streaky on Tuesday 30th September 18:21
planetdave said:A colleague's boyfriend crashed into a lamp-post whilst turning a corner when the cigarette he was smoking fell into his lap!
Bugger the stats.
I have nearly stuffed my car while on the phone so feel that a ban is a good idea. Even worse:- it was handsfree
And as for texting WTF are they thinking?
He then made the personal decision not to smoke whilst driving, but didn't feel that a total ban was necessary.
Not that I disagree - Streaky
according to the bumf at work (I fit handsfrees), you can't even hold a phone in a car whilst it's stationary...
in other words, once you get in the car, in order to use your phone you have to get out of the car...
I can see that being safe in accident or breakdown situations
Still, it's only illegal if you get caught innit...
>> Edited by CB-Dave on Wednesday 1st October 00:37
in other words, once you get in the car, in order to use your phone you have to get out of the car...
I can see that being safe in accident or breakdown situations
Still, it's only illegal if you get caught innit...
>> Edited by CB-Dave on Wednesday 1st October 00:37
This whole process is complete rubbish and indicative of the dearth of intellect with DfT.
Note in the decison document the outcome seems to have been taken on the opinions of the weight responses from 1040 representations made over 75% of these were unnamed individuals who seem to have been accorded the same status as orgainsations who vary from the serious and larger professional orgs to the nihilists such as RoadPeace.
In the document it says it all - existing legislation is there to tackle it - and there are more pressing priorities.
Note in the decison document the outcome seems to have been taken on the opinions of the weight responses from 1040 representations made over 75% of these were unnamed individuals who seem to have been accorded the same status as orgainsations who vary from the serious and larger professional orgs to the nihilists such as RoadPeace.
In the document it says it all - existing legislation is there to tackle it - and there are more pressing priorities.
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