idea for defence? comments invited
idea for defence? comments invited
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upcreeknopaddle?

Original Poster:

23 posts

266 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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Whilst looking into the judgement on york&mawdesley yesterday it occured to me that there may be scope to argue that the completion of the NIP in anyway whatsoever by the Reg Keeper of a vehicle could amount to some form of forced confession, which in itself would render the NIP useless in anyway whatsoever the BIB. then again i may have made a glaring error or omission in my reasoning so feel free to comment & correct!

If one assumes that a signed NIP is a confession under s12 of RTOA (which as we know it is) and an unsigned, but completed by RK, NIP is a confession under PACE (which we dont know cos it hasnt been tested but JO tries to say it is) isnt the RK being forced to confess to the offence by the requirement of s172 of RTOA to fill in the details of the driver? Therefore the "confession" could not be deemed to be admissible because it was effectively forced, the two statutes which JO sought to apply to the NIP(PACE & RTOA) effctively conspire to mean that as soon as an RK puts pen to paper he is one way or another deemed to have confessed. And isnt it an unshakeable principle that a forced confession can never be deemed as acceptable evidence?

jeffreyarcher

675 posts

268 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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Why did you start a new thread for this? Outlaw told you yesterday why it's a lot of bollox. Before you singlehandedly overturn superior court rulings, at least do a bit of research.



>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Friday 17th October 13:31

outlaw

1,893 posts

286 months

Friday 17th October 2003
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he mite have lost the other tred jeff

If his ISP`s, transparent catch is as screwed as mine

My finger hurting fron hitting ctrl F5 evey few mins.

bloody ntl